Talk:William Herndon (lawyer)

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Slanderous![edit]

This is the most slanderous article I have read on Wikipedia! I have read Herndon's book, and he regarded Lincoln with reverence! Herndon said he was an immensely sincere and kind man. Those close to Lincoln, including Herndon, actually regarded him of higher purpose. He called him a man of immense truth and logic. When Lincoln was killed at the end of the most trying hour of the nation, Herndon knew that nobody knew his personality better than he did, and he took it upon himself to dedicate the rest of his life to let the People know what martyred Lincoln was like. Herndon predicted the official story of Lincoln would be told "with the classes as against the masses," meaning it would be written to suit the rich people. Lincoln's official biographers, Nicolay and Hay, were bestowed many gifts by the rich Anglo-American establishment for what they wrote. With Herndon, we know we're getting a more sincere portrait of Lincoln, told with the breadth of 25 years instead of 5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.156.176 (talkcontribs)

And thank you for that testimonial. However, you failed to mention what is slanderous about it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 09:23, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed a flag on this page regarding peacock words but I don't see anything in this article that can support that it is correctly flagged. I think the flag should be removed unless the person who flagged it can provide an example. I won't do it myself yet, but I will eventually if it isn't backed up by examples on the talk page. 97.87.13.82 (talk) 00:17, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reconsidering Herndon[edit]

Perhaps this article should reflect some of the issues raised by Mr. Wilson. For example:

But did Herndon set out to malign Mary Todd? To document what she calls Herndon's "hatred" of Mary, Randall cites Donald's listing of a string of unflattering phrases that Herndon applied to Mary in a series of letters to Weik.27 But if one reads the letters themselves, the charge of hatred appears well off the mark. Herndon does indeed call her a "she wolf" and "a tigress," but he also credits her with an essential role in Lincoln's success. What is more, one finds Herndon explaining Mary's situation to Weik with understanding and sympathy: "In her domestic troubles I have always sympathized with her. The world does not know what she bore and the history of the bearing. I will write it out some time. This domestic hell of Lincoln's life is not all on one side."28 In another of these letters, he tells Weik, "I have always sympathized with Mrs. Lincoln. Remember that Every Effect must have its Cause. Mrs. Lincoln was not a she wolf — wild Cat without a Cause."

— Douglas L. Wilson, "William H. Herndon and His Lincoln Informants," Journal of the Abraham Lincoln Association Winter 1993 <http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/jala/14.1/wilson.html> (15 Feb. 2011).

OldFelix (talk) 18:50, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Death Date For Joel Maxcy[edit]

Regarding Herndon's wife's grandfather, the following statement is incorrect: "Revolutionary War veteran Joel Maxcy, arrived in Sangamon County in 1827 with his second wife and died the following month." He did arrive from Kentucky in 1827, but he then farmed in Illinois for over fifteen years before his death on December 26, 1844. His death was reported in the Illinois Weekly State Journal (Springfield, Illinois), January 9, 1845, page 3. The death notice was also published in the New York True Sun (NY, NY) on January 23, 1845, page 2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Max Fidelity (talkcontribs) 22:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the uncited content regarding Herndon's collaboration with Jesse W. Weik here, because it was uncited and not likely info that will be easy to find - and it's trivia or non-essential information for a biographical encyclopedia article per WP:ENC; Don't give undue weight to traits unrelated to notability WP:BIODD

If someone disagrees and is willing to do the research, that would be fine.–CaroleHenson (talk) 01:35, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot this uncited content from another section, also about Weik. Removed it here.–CaroleHenson (talk) 01:38, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]