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A fact from Willy Gordon appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 8 January 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Swedish sculptor Willy Gordon received some attention with a sculpture showing a naked male figure carrying a piece of meat on his shoulders before a reclining female figure?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2007/January.

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I read somewere that he was a lecturer at the Art Academy of Haifa. Also I saw a Monument on Raoul Wallenberg in Lidingö, Sweden. He must have done some more sculptuires that could be shown here. Question also arises, whether the Monument for Vilnius was realized or not. Are there any publications written by himself or others with regard to his work, like catalogues? I would like to see the article to be extended a little bit before translating it into German.--Kresspahl 11:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately I don't have immediate answers to these questions because my main source was the Swedish Winkipedia article. I imagine that since the Vilnius monument was the result of a competition and was built in the early 90's any problems with its construction would have been reported in the Swedish article. As far as the monument for Raoul Wallenberg is concerned we should certainly mention it in the article if it can be verified that he actually created it. Dr.K. 17:49, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I added an external link to the Wallenberg monument (with picture). For a translation a need the translation for the other sculptures mentioned in the article, they are still in Swedish, but need English translation or explanation. Also I need the places of birth and death, both with the exact dates day/month/yr.--Kresspahl 21:44, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Good job. I'll try to translate some of the titles but at present I'm not completely clear about some of them. As far as dates the Swedish wikipedia article doesn't include the exact dates, I'll try to see what I can do. Take care for now. Dr.K. 21:53, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I guess Karlavägen has got to be explained for non-Swedish people too.--Kresspahl 22:29, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Dr.K. 00:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Molecular Sculptures[edit]

This/These work/s certainly are somehow special and unusual. So we need to know more about it.--Kresspahl 08:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I even suggested it as a Did you know fact candidate. Dr.K. 17:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Literature/References[edit]

The ISBN number of his autobiography would be very useful.--Kresspahl 08:42, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This number doesn't appear in the university database that's in the article. Maybe it can be found from another database. Dr.K. 18:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures[edit]

Though he was basicly engaged in the Greater Stockholm area I am convinced, that his work is of international relevance under WP terms. I have seen the one picture we have in commons and the two others of the monuments/sculptures on Raoul Wallenberg and Selma Lagerlöff. We still need pictures of those and others. But with these three pictures he will go in any WP-language.--Kresspahl 22:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can you link to the pictures so that I can incorporate them in the article? Dr.K. 00:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They are on xternal site, Wallenberg ist linked as external link, Lagerlöff not. But we need them under commons-licence. So someone out of the community living close by has to go there and take the pictures.--Kresspahl 07:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe some Swedish wikipedians can help us. I never visited that beautiful country. Dr.K. 16:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to Boberger there are quite few pictures of Gordons sculptures in commons now.--Kresspahl 19:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great work indeed. Nice work on the German Wikipedia article as well! Very well written Kresspahl. Dr.K. 23:54, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Danke für die Blumen.--Kresspahl 08:19, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mit dem größten Vergnügen. Dr.K. 03:12, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy[edit]

Is there something specific about The Meeting that causes controversy? Is it as simple as overt genitalia, or is there more to it than that? This seems like it should be fleshed out (no pun intended). SINsApple 04:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent question. I imagine it has to do with the rather submissive posture of the female figure. In a sense the male figure appears to be the provider and doing all the work (carrying the food etc.). If not viewed in the proper historical context this may be interpreted as providing an unfairly stereotypical view of women. Dr.K. 15:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

...but, we shouldn't guess here. Could be a point where a citation is useful.--Kresspahl 17:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Precisely, that's why we are having the discussion on the talk page. We don't need citations as long as they are not incorporated in the article. However if an art scholar can be found to corroborate this that's another story. Dr.K. 18:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jewish, or of Jewish decent?[edit]

I noted a change in the article, with the edit summary: <<"of Jewish decent" is a figure of speech that diminishes the Jewish aspect of a person's identity (as in "born as, but no longer identifiying as").>> Well, does anybody know how he identified himself? Greswik 21:08, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]