Talk:Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing

Quote

Should this perhaps be renamed to the version without the quotes? They're not in the article body, so why should they be in the title? - Taxman ^Talk 17:15, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah it shouldn't have quotation marks. See here. --Ted87 04:55, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Lombardi

The article is incorrect. Lombardi never actually used the phrase. 68.192.108.27 17:12, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

You're right

Your right about lombardi never saying that. Goaliemaster121 01:07, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

American Dialect Society ADS-L

A search of the American Dialect Society ADS-L list post 1999 has some citations from the Los Angeles Times on Red Sanders' usage, as well as a book.[1]

"ART ROSENBAUM. Los Angeles Times (1886-Current File). Los Angeles, Calif.: Oct 18, 1950. p. C3 (1 page): Here's one on Red Sanders, as told by himself this summer at Cal Poly (San Luis Obispo) physical education workshop. Speaking about football victories, Sanders told his group: "Men, I'll be honest. Winning isn't everything. (Long pause.) Men, it's the only thing!" (Laughter.) "

David Maraniss' book on V. Lombardi, _When Pride Still Mattered_, p. 369: "As to the famous phrase, Shavelson said that it came from his Hollywood agent, who also happened to represent the colorful UCLA football coach Henry "Red" Sanders. "The agent quoted me the line once and said that he had heard Sanders say it," Shavelson recalled. "That's how it got in the script."

Red Sanders is also quoted in the December 26, 1955 issue of Sports Illustrated, which was right before the 1956 Rose Bowl in which his UCLA Bruins team participated. I do not have the actual issue, but I understand the quote reads, "Sure, winning isn't everything. It's the only thing." Group29 19:20, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

When you win, nothing hurts.

Although similar, this is attributed to Joe Namath. I am not sure it belongs here or whether this article should be a collection of winning quotes. Group29 (talk) 21:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Giampiero Boniperti

Giampiero Boniperti said a version of this at the dedication of the Juventus Stadium for the Juventus_F.C. in 2011. The slogan has since appeared on their football kit.

"Vincere non è importante è l'unica cosa che conta"

("I'm here after 67 years to embrace you all. Winning is not important it is the only thing that matters (counts)")[2] There appears to be no earlier record of that.