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WP.29 part of ITC[edit]

"is a working party (WP.29)[1] of the Sustainable Transport Division" Is that correct? WP.29 is a working party of the ITC Inland Transport Committee, see http://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/main/itc/ITC_structure_v3.pdf I guess, WP.29 is belonging to the ITC and not to Sustainable Transport Division. Ing Nbg (talk) 13:02, 26 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

Anonymous user 66.77.124.6, who appears to have quite a history of vandalism and inappropriate behaviour on Wikipedia, inserted POV and factually incorrect material. I have deleted this material (as well as other off-topic and/or factually incorrect material not added by 66.77.124.6) and made other minor edits. Scheinwerfermann 23:44, 9 March 2006 (EST)

Self-certification[edit]

Self-certification also exists in the European Union.--Diamondland (talk) 18:56, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you prove it? I am fairly certain you're not correct, but if you have reliable support for that assertion, let's see it, please. —Scheinwerfermann ^T·_C01:22, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Self certification might exist for CE marking.

For vehicles, members of the 1958 agreement have a type approval where the type is approved by one national authority. Then the manufacturer certifies produced vehicles complies with the approved type. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.193.104.81 (talk) 11:28, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Also, for Australia, memberof the 1958 agreement:

The Australian vehicle certification system is a type approval system. This means that a vehicle representing the design of that make-model (the "type" of vehicle) is tested to demonstrate compliance with the safety and emissions standard. If the vehicle tested complies then all others of the same design (ie the same "type") will also comply.
Vehicle Safety Standards does not test vehicles itself for certification purposes. The manufacturer is responsible for ensuring compliance with the ADRs. The Australian certification process allows the vehicle manufacturer ("the licensee") to conduct the tests required by the various ADRs. The manufacturer can conduct those tests wherever is convenient to the manufacturer providing, of course, that the tests are conducted properly. In order to demonstrate compliance with all the applicable ADRs several test vehicles are usually required, especially for passenger cars and light commercials.
Having conducted all the appropriate tests, the manufacturer must then submit an application for approval to fit Compliance Plates to the particular make/model of vehicle that has been tested. In order to demonstrate to VSS that the testing has been done correctly and that the vehicle passed, the manufacturer is required to submit to VSS key results from the testing process; that is, a summary of the evidence of compliance to the applicable ADRs.
— http://rvcs.infrastructure.gov.au/cert.html

China and India non-signatories to the "1958 Agreement"?[edit]

Two new major vehicle manufacturers, India and China, also are non-signatories to the "1958 Agreement." With their burgeoning auto production, China and India join the United States and Canada as significant exceptions. QUESTION: Do these two countries, even if not formally participating..., recognize..., mirror..., permit the use and importation..., or both?? Either way, I think mention of these two particular countries would strengthen the article. Skipdunn (talk) 20:46, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

India was moving deliberately towards signing the 1958 agreement as of 2007 (and Google searches show updates and further progress towards being ready to sign in 2008, 2009, and 2010). My quicky searches don't definitively say if India has signed yet or not. Both countries' national regulations are substantially (and increasingly) aligned with the ECE regulations; a Google search shows India was saying their regs were 78% aligned with ECE in 2008. China's CCC regs are virtually identical to ECE regs. But in neither country are ECE type approvals granted or recognised. So in that respect, both those countries are practically more or less "ECE countries" in that automakers can send in and sell their rest-of-world-outside-North-America vehicles to India and China with little or no variance in specification; the maker simply has to approve or certify the vehicle or component as complying with the Indian or Chinese regulatory regime. It's the ECE type approval that's not recognised, not the ECE-spec vehicle components, systems, and design features. So at the practical level, India and China are in closer alignment with "rest of world" than they are with North America. Nevertheless, you're right, this deserves good-quality, well-supported coverage in the article. —Scheinwerfermann ^T·_C03:27, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They do not need to recognize foreign type approval because they are not member of the Vienna Convention on Road Traffic which does require it for cross border vehicles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.217.104 (talk) 14:39, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Structure could be improved to match content?[edit]

The current structure does not match the content:

Currently, this article basically focus on two topics: the 1958 agreement on one hand and — out of this agreement and out of the World Forum for Harmonization of Vehicle Regulations — the USA on the other hand.

Structure could be improved to match content.

One proposal was done to change the structure but was reverted by a robot which detected "poorly written changes": https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=World_Forum_for_Harmonization_of_Vehicle_Regulations&diff=988184557&oldid=988122822

However, there are many issues in this proposal: one of them is the expression "vehicles categories". Might be for "vehicle categories"?

Could someone take into account that issue? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.216.31 (talk) 19:14, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]