Talk:Wuhan flu

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Covid entry[edit]

The Covid entry currently looks like this:

an informal term for COVID-19, mostly seen as indicative of the xenophobia related to the pandemic

Constructive suggestions for improvement are of course always welcome, but there has been a push by one very persistent IP editor to remove the second part of the sentence. That's not appropriate: WP:NPOV requires us to appropriately qualify loaded terms, and not present or use them as though they were neutral. And "Wuhan flu" is mostly a loaded term: even though there are occasional uses that appear neutral, it's now almost universally associated with anti-Chinese sentiments – a fact that's well documented (examples: [1] [2]).

Another question is which of the two articles to link in the description. There's a preference for entries on dab pages to contain only one blue link (MOS:DABBLUE), but this can be overridden if the two links are both highly relevant: COVID-19 because the term is a synonym for it, and xenophobia related to the pandemic because that's where the term is actually mentioned, with some context about its use. – Uanfala (talk) 13:44, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I could present you with a similar paper that was actually published and argues that penises are a social construct and responsible for climate change. The fact that some left wing establishments have decided that all of the sudden something is racist and xenophobic does not make it such. As it currently stands, this description is politically charged as it seeks to impugn motives. A more neutral version needs to be published. Itsjustme007 (talk) 22:35, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Questions of wikipedia content aren't resolved by our own political preferences, they're resolved by what reliable sources say on the topic. I've presented sources that comment on the xenophobic nature of the term "Wuhan flu". If you would like to challenge that, then you'd need to bring sources that challenge this view. – Uanfala (talk) 23:31, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer the status quo version. Ironically, the Itsjustme007 version seems less neutral despite an edit summary claiming it is more neutral. –Novem Linguae (talk) 23:43, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Xenophobia has become a political label. Such labels are not constructive. https://www.mackinac.org/3606 Itsjustme007 (talk) 23:44, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How is it less neutral to say “some people may find this offensive” as opposed to “if you use these words, it means that you are a xenophobe”? Itsjustme007 (talk) 23:48, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you interpret "mostly seen as indicative of" as equivalent to "if you use these words, it means that you are"? Bakkster Man (talk) 14:14, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mostly seen as indicative (is there any polling that shows most people in the world believe this?)

Some incorrectly associate the use of Wuhan Flu with xenophobia.

Some xenophobes use the term and other xenophobes don't; while some people that are not xenophobes don't use the term and others do. Idrawrobots (talk) 18:04, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Protection[edit]

@Anarchyte. Hello friend. Was wondering if can double check the protection you set on this page. End date may have accidentally been set to today instead of 2024. [3]. Thank you. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:09, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the ping. Not sure why it didn’t go through properly. I’ve reassigned the protection and it seems to have worked now. Anarchyte (talk) 02:34, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]