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This article was nominated for merging with Yandex on 8 October 2012. The result of the discussion was withdrawn.

Merge proposal[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was withdrawn. I think that the article has been rescued and my original reason for merging the articles is now unnecessary. I'm withdrawing my merge proposal. Big thanks to everyone who contributed! Michaelzeng7 (talk) 21:53, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In response to User:Czarkoff's notability tag, I am proposing that we merge this article into the Yandex article per the relevant notability guideline. The article's subject is small enough to be merged and the Yandex article isn't that long so as to be cut arbitrarily or by section. ~~If no one objects, I will merge the article on 10 October 2012 to prevent it from being nominated for deletion.~~ Michaelzeng7 (talk) 20:07, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My concerns over notability of this software boil down to the fact that the otherwise sufficient coverage is connected to the single event. I think that it is too soon now to merge this, as the browser may attract some more sources in coming months. If the sources on topic keep talking of this software as a browser by Yandex, it should be merged then; if the browser will get properly reviewed and covered independently of its developer, the article may stand. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 20:27, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am having a hard time understanding why you think the article is not notable? Could you explain User:Michaelzeng7? There may not be many reviews of this browser in English because it is predominantly targeted towards the Russian market, but I think over time it could capture sizable market share in Russia and perhaps Europe at large. So I think it is important to have a separate entry for the browser as it has the potential to have an impact on the worldwide browser market. Afwm1985 (talk) 22:31, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The idea is simple: the coverage is connected to the single event and lacks depth, which is at best borderline case regarding WP:GNG, and flies in face of WP:NSOFT. Such articles are normally deleted; in this case the article is not already in AfD as the chance that it would actually become notable soon is taken seriously. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 22:23, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

it's an actual chromium-based browser, it has no less right to have a separate article on the wiki than, say, comodo dragon browser or srware iron. it's not just chrome with a different theme or something. dem users with russian-sounding names and their tags -_- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.34.87.247 (talk) 18:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, unlike those it wasn't covered in multiple independent reliable sources in sufficient depth. BTW, what was "dem" supposed to mean? — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 22:23, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about my inactivity. I completely forgot about this. I looked at the guideline, it said most web products should not have an article on it's own unless it's parent article is too long and needs to be split, in this case, that isn't true. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 21:36, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's no reason to say that the same information in this article can't be given successfully at Yandex. It is not too soon to merge, if it becomes notable, just split the content into a separate article and tag it with {{Main}}. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 21:43, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose merge - the refs cited are enough to show notability and the product and the company are really two separate subjects. - Ahunt (talk) 12:51, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

With no more discussion on this topic for the past seven days I think we can mark this as "no consensus to merge" and detag it. - Ahunt (talk) 14:19, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Origin[edit]

For some time, Yandex was distributing Chrome with its extension suite. Then, it recompiled Chromium with a new icon and name (but still used extensions, without them it was a dated Chrome rebranding). In January 2013, it was relaunched with Mail Checker integrated, Native Client removed, and an awkward "new tab UI". The Mail.RU Internet (another Chrome of Russia) still sits behind as a freakish recompilation distributed with an extension suite. - Yura87 (talk) 10:11, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you have references that describe this then it can be added to the article. - Ahunt (talk) 12:27, 10 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am unsure if it's possible now, but if someone has a copy of Yandex.Internet installer, this can be proved easily. Same with Mail.ru browser. Frankly, Mail.ru provides BOTH of their extensions over Chrome Store (and so does Yandex)

The two extensions, in both cases, are a New Tab module and a mail checker that resides in Chrome's tray (right of URLbar). - Yura87 (talk) 12:09, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It is all a matter of verifiability! - Ahunt (talk) 12:25, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It can only be verified by a user owning those browsers' dated installers as verifiable sources would just not bother documenting this. Yandex originally distributed Chrome with two of its addons, then altered the icon to give it a separate identity, and ultimately added its own NTP module (not an addon but part of the browser) and, later on, Opera's Turbo. Mail.Ru Internet remains, to this point, a rebranded Chrome with addons rather than a derivative. Rambler.Internet is rebranded SRWare Iron with a mail-checker and slightly altered (though not via addon) New Tab page. Therefore, of 3 major Russian search engines, Yandex Browser has the most distinctions from Chrome. Yura87 (talk) 10:39, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Basically as the policy explains, if sources for this information cannot be found (even something as rudimentary as change logs) then it really can't be verified and therefore can't be included. - Ahunt (talk) 10:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yandex's value[edit]

Various "drive by" tech reviews suggest that Opera technology is used to make Yandex more "fault tolerant" for, apparently, slow Russian connections. I am in Russia's Arctic neighbor of Canada (think about it) with Hugesnet satellite "bird" connection, and the tech-mix, however it is arranged, does give vastly better performance than Chrome and especially Firefox. This makes me think of other Russian innovations, such as the AK-47 fully-auto military rifle that shakes like a can of ball bearings on purpose, so that dust/dirt does not "gum it up." (I can likewise confirm this as I briefly had a midwest malita friend, but he gave me a serous case of fungus on my scalp that forces me to wear a baseball cap to hid the damage!) --John Bessa (talk) 14:22, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Information on the browser's performance can be added if you can cite references. - Ahunt (talk) 14:25, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yandex.Browser Update[edit]

The main page is currently out of date, so this will tell you some updates in Yandex.Browser. Yandex.Browser has recently been updated to version 16.6.0.8608, which includes bug fixes from previous 16.6.0.x versions and new UI changes since 16.4.x versions. Yandex Zen is now included in the Windows version of the browser, and the rotating circle while loading tabs is changed to be closer to that of Google Chrome's. The colored part of the tabs with the title are now more rounded to better blend into the browser. When you open a new tab page, there is now a box around the close button like around normal tabs to make it clearer that the new tab is open. 2602:306:3754:4A80:5D22:2565:641E:997B (talk) 18:58, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

32 or 64 bits ?[edit]

Is Yandex Browser a 32 or 64 bits program? (on Windows 64 bits) ? The information is not on this wikipedia page. And I find it hard to find the information either through a web search, the Yandex Browser page, or by tracking my Yandex Browser shortcuts, to find the .exe file (the launcher is in the User folder, unfortunately not in the Programs-x86 folder or the Programs (64 bits) folder, which would have been a nice hint). I know that Chrome (mainstream version) is still in 32 bits. Canari in 64. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montalte (talk • contribs) 23:16, 14 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In 64-bit Ubuntu, I see this in apt: "yandex-browser-beta/неизвестно,now 17.1.1.266-1 amd64", so likely 64 there (would be "i386" instead of "amd64" if 32). --ssr (talk) 00:25, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
In 64-bit Fedora, I see this: "yandex-browser-beta.x86_64 17.1.1.266-1", and "x86_64" also points to 64. --ssr (talk) 08:25, 15 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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"DNS spoofing protection" and "DNSCrypt" sections are obsolete and no longer makes sense[edit]

"DNS spoofing protection" and "DNSCrypt" sections are actually about the same thing (DNSCrypt). Also, these sections cite sources from 2016. Since then multiple browsers and operating systems implemented DNS over HTTPS and DNS over TLS, so I would be surprised if Yandex Browser still uses only DNSCrypt. Anton.bersh (talk) 16:33, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We need references to update this, see WP:PROVEIT. - Ahunt (talk) 16:39, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]