Talk:Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai

Respective Ages

Who came up with all of the ages for the characters in Yeh Rishta Kya Kehlata Hai? Please, this is not a blog where one can have fun and be creative. Please stick to the facts and I honestly doubt you can find a reference for that.

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Plot to be divided in tabular format

I highly agree and recommend that plots should be divided in tabular format like its done for the page Anupama serial, you can just copy and paste this : 

Akshara and Naitik, both from large Marwari joint families based in Udaipur get married. Initially, they struggle to understand each other but gradually come to understand, support, and love each other. Soon, their son, Naksh is born. Naitik falls into a coma due to an accident.

4 years later

Akshara starts working in the family business. Naitik recovers from the coma and struggles to bond with a mischievous Naksh. Naitik's mother Gayatri dies after falling off a cliff post, and his sister Rashmi gives birth to a daughter and names her Gayatri. Akshara and Naitik's daughter Naira is born. Mahendra dies and Kaveri blames Akshara for it and disowns her. Akshara and Naitik move out with their children. 10 years later

They relocate to Cape Town. Naksh returns to Udaipur and convinces Kaveri to forgive an innocent Akshara. Eventually, the family is reunited. Naksh falls for Tara, a hockey player. However, their wedding gets called off due to some misunderstandings. Out of fear of being wrongly blamed for her friend Sukanya's death, Naira flees from Udaipur. 7 years later

Naira lives in an orphanage in Rishikesh and has grown up to be headstrong but insecure and arrogant. Akshara reaches there to fund the orphanage and finds Naira. Kartik Goenka arrives in Udaipur and a love triangle is formed between him, Gayatri, and Naira. Kartik realizes his love for Naira while Gayatri has feelings for Kartik. Naira finally accepts Akshara.

Kartik confesses his love for Naira while the latter is initially confused about her feelings but later realizes her love for Kartik. Akshara dies by falling off a cliff in a car crash.

Kartik and Naira get married. Kartik hates his father Manish and his step-mother Swarna thinking they are responsible for his mother's suicide. Eventually, he reconciles with them after finding them innocent. Naksh and Keerti get married. Initially marrying for Naira's sake, he begins to love Keerti. Naira fulfills her parents' dream of opening a dance academy and names it "Akshara Dance Academy" as a tribute to her mother. Swarna's son, Shubham dies of a drug overdose and Naira is blamed for hiding his drug addiction. Naira leaves as Kartik and Swarna refuse to trust her. 2 years later

Naira lives in Mumbai with Naitik. Kartik is the professor of the same class for which Naira signs up. Eventually, Kartik and Swarna realize their mistakes and reunite with Naira. Naira and Keerti become pregnant and both meet with an accident. Naira's child was born dead and Keerti falls into a coma after delivering a boy. Kartik swaps the babies and names the boy as Krish. Later, Naksh-Keerti learn the truth about Krish and Naira is shocked on learning about her child's death. She loses her memory in an accident, later reunites with Kartik after regaining her memory.

Later, pregnant Gayatri loses her fiance Vivaan and married Samarth, Suhasini's nephew. Naira enters the family business and Kartik feels insecure about her busy routine. Naira finds out she is pregnant. Kartik questions Naira about her relationship with her business partner, Mihir. Naira rebukes him and storms out of the house without informing her pregnancy and meets with an accident. She is presumed to be dead by the family. 5 years later

Naira lives in Goa with their son Kairav. Kartik lives in guilt for not trusting Naira and finds solace in Vansh, Gayatri's son. Soon everyone learns that Naira is alive and Kairav is Naira and Kartik's son. Despite trying to get away from each other, Kartik and Naira become closer. Soon they reunite.

Few months later, Naira gives birth to a daughter and names her Akshara. More family drama leads to Naira and Kartik moving out with Kairav and Akshara. 3 months later

The family is reunited but meets with an accident. Naira falls off a cliff and dies. Kartik is left heartbroken. Soon, Kairav meets a boxer named Sirat who is Naira's lookalike, which makes Kairav think that his mother has returned. After several demands from Kairav, Kartik brings Sirat and her grandmother to the Goenka house. Sirat reveals her former love Ranveer. Kartik realizes that Sirat and Ranveer had a misunderstanding, caused by Ranveer's father, Narendranath, and gets them married. Sirat falls for Kartik. Ranveer falls ill and dies asking Kartik to take care of Sirat. Narendranath holds Sirat responsible and gets her arrested on murder charges. Kartik bails her out and Sirat goes away from Kartik.

Later, Sirat shifts to Dalhousie changing her name to Simran. Kartik convinces her to return to Udaipur. Sirat and Kartik expose Narendranath and get married confessing their love to each other. Soon Sirat gives birth to a daughter, Aarohi. She resumes her boxing training and qualifies for the Asian Championship. 8 years later

Akshara discovers that not Sirat, but Naira is her real mother. Sirat's mother, Sheela returns and manipulates Aarohi against the family. Kartik dies in a plane crash leaving the entire family in shock. Sirat slips down the stairs and falls to her death. Aarohi holds Akshara responsible for Sirat's death and starts detesting her. 12 years later

Akshara has grown up to be a kind and family-loving girl. She is a singer and musician. Aarohi aspires to be a doctor and still hates Akshara. Dr. Abhimanyu Birla is a practicing surgeon at Birla Hospital and Medical Institute. A love triangle is formed between the three. Aarohi and Abhimanyu's marriage is fixed, but Akshara and Abhimanyu confess their love in front of their families. Both families reach Jaipur and Akshara and Abhimanyu get married in a grand ceremony. Aarohi eventually patches up with Akshara.

Later, it is revealed that Abhimanyu's father, Harshvardhan was having an extra-marital affair with Dr. Avni and Neil is their illegitimate son. Manjari had brought Neil home through adoption. Manjari and Harshvardhan head for a divorce but Harshvardhan reforms himself and they reconcile.

Soon a fire breaks out at Birla Hospital and Abhimanyu suffers a pinched nerve in his right hand. Akshara contacts a renowned physiotherapist, Dr. Kunal Khera, for his treatment. Meanwhile, Anisha proposes to Kairav for marriage but Akshara learns about her having an affair with a married man and her plan to continue the affair post-marriage and confronts her for the same which Kairav overhears. Kairav refuses to marry Anisha for her betrayal and asks her to reveal the truth to the families. Anisha, who lacks the courage to tell this truth, commits suicide and the Birla family blames Kairav and Akshara for her death thinking they are responsible for it. Later, Dr. Kunal asks Akshara to sing secretly for his sister, Maya for a year in lieu of Abhimanyu's surgery to which she agrees. 1 year later

Akshara now lives incognito in Mauritius with Kunal and Maya and remains depressed due to her separation with Abhimanyu, who has misunderstood her and became a ruthless person. Akshara and Kairav come back to India and eventually Kairav is proven innocent. Abhimanyu and Akshara reunite and remarry. Neil and Aarohi elope and get married due to which Manish disowns her. Akshara successfully restores her lost identity as Maya's voice and resumes her singing career.

Akshara gets pregnant with twins while Aarohi is also pregnant. In a bid to save some girls from kidnapping, Neil is beaten up by goons and Akshara miscarries. Before dying, Neil makes Abhimanyu promise to take care of Aarohi and his child. Akshara is blamed for Neil's death and Abhimanyu divorces her. Distraught, Akshara leaves the house and is helped by Abhinav. She finds that one of her twins is still alive. Manish requests Akshara to return to Goenkas', but she refuses and legally marries Abhinav. 6 years later

Akshara lives in Kasauli with her son, Abhir and Abhinav. On the other hand, Aarohi has become mature and Abhimanyu has taken the fatherly responsibility of her daughter, Ruhi. Abhir considers Abhinav as his father while Ruhi is aware that Neil is her father. Manjiri starts forcing Abhimanyu and Aarohi to marry for Ruhi's sake despite their refusals while Akshara and Abhinav are forcing the same by their neighbor, Neelima. Soon, Abhimanyu ends up meeting Akshara, Abhinav, and Abhir. Initially shocked, he decides to move on. Abhimanyu and Aarohi decide to get married for Ruhi's sake.

Akshara, Abhinav, and Abhir return to Udaipur for Suhasini's birthday. Abhir is revealed to have a hole in his heart and everyone learns that Abhir is Akshara and Abhimanyu's son. Abhir is recovered after Abhimanyu does his surgery. Kairav falls in love with Neelima's granddaughter, Muskaan and they marry. Soon Abhimanyu wins Abhir's custody depressing Akshara while Abhir too runs away from Birla House. After a chase he's found and Abhimanyu gives up custody. Later both families gather to celebrate Abhinav's birthday and Abhimanyu takes the former for a drink on a cliff where he falls off and dies while Abhimanyu is accused of his murder. Later he is proven innocent while Abhir unable to cope with Abhinav's death slips into depression. For Abhir's health Abhimanyu and Akshara decide to marry once again while Akshara is revealed to be pregnant with Abhinav's child. 22 years later

Akshara lives with her daughter Abhira. Soon Armaan and Ruhi fall for each other. Abhira is being troubled by her stalker Yuvraaj who intends to marry her. Ruhi gets heartbroken after Armaan fails to reach her due to case hearings of Yuvraaj and gets ready to marry his half-brother Rohit. Yuvraaj forcefully tries to marry Abhira by keeping Akshara as hostage. Armaan saves her but Akshara gets a shot and asks him to marry Abhira to save her, and dies. Poddars starts harassing Abhira post her entry in Poddar house and she struggles to continue her studies while Rohit leaves home and is persumed dead after learning about Armaan and Ruhi's affair before marriage and latter starts getting jealous of Armaan and Abhira's married life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adarshayushman (talk • contribs) 12:59, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

@ManaliJain and C1K98V: can we add plot in tabular format according to leaps. Because a new user Abhishek Kaushadhan 123 is removing too much necessary buildup plot daily including important characters like Aarohi who was introduced as 2nd lead of Generation 3 even since 1st promo and remained in montage till end. Pri2000 (talk) 16:29, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

@Ravensfire, Insaneikigai, Venkat TL, and Jellysandwich0: please you too share an opinion on this matter. Pri2000 (talk) 17:49, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

A tabular format for the plot is not suggested, as it is unnecessary. User Abhishek Kaushadhan 123 is not new (an extended-confirmed user and here since 2020), he is editing by adhering to the guidelines and is removing trivia, which appears appropriate to me. Regarding Aarohi's character, she was never a lead character but rather a recurring one. ManaliJain (talk) 17:54, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

@ManaliJain but she was introduced as 2nd lead since the promo itself and remained part of the montage till end of gen 3. As much as I remember she was even present in main cast during initial days. Pri2000 (talk) 18:00, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Being in the promos or posters doesn't make you a lead character. For example, even Abhinav's character, though introduced later, remained on the poster for quite some time until his character's demise. Does that make him a lead as well? No. There's a difference between the lead and recurring cast. In lead roles, main characters are in focus and the story revolves around them. On the other hand, recurring characters appear briefly or frequently in every episode and they can be quite important but don't have as much focus as the main characters. ManaliJain (talk) 04:27, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

according to me, the show has spanned for so many years and 4 generations and i dont know for how many more years it will continue that the plot can never limit itself in the word limit specified by wiki and in the process of doing so, the page just looks like a random plot which wont help the readers in any way! So its better either to remove the whole plot section and add basic PREMISES/SYNOPSIS of each gen or continue PLOT section with atleast basic essential details. What you guys say @ManaliJain @Pri2000? Imsaneikigai (talk) 06:45, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

@Imsaneikigai i want to say same amd that's why came up by tabular plot idea where every leap can be concise in tables. You really think removing Naira's 1st pregnancy thing and then writing she's pregnant again, removing Kairav's hole in heart thing, removing Aarohi being aspiring doctor and her marriage being fixed with Abhimanyu and then it getting called off will help readers in any way. It actually seems a random plot. I agree with your idea of just letting premise thing and removing plot is also good. Even Taarak Mehta Ka Ooltah Chashmah which premiered just few months before it's premiere and still running is concised to premise instead of plot due to several tracks. Pri2000 (talk) 07:03, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

@Pri2000 Yes, i think we should go ahead with Premise section cos random plot wont help readers in any way, they still have to watch the show. So its better to not give any detailed info because at the end an intrigued audience would have to watch the show anyhow to get a basic idea because random plot is just haywire! Imsaneikigai (talk) 07:11, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

@Imsaneikigai yes lets others give views on same and i feel this should be applied to every show which headed for generation leaps be it Kundali Bhagya, Kumkum Bhagya, Pandya Store, Ghum Hai Kisikey Pyaar Meiin or Yeh Hai Chahatein. All these shows either headed for second generation or third generation leaps in this year including few others too. Pri2000 (talk) 07:17, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Agreeing with Imsaneikigai's point. ManaliJain (talk) 11:08, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

I highly agree and recommend that plots should be divided in tabular format like its done for the page Anupama serial, you can just copy and paste this : Akshara and Naitik, both from large Marwari joint families based in Udaipur get married. Initially, they struggle to understand each other but gradually come to understand, support, and love each other. Soon, their son, Naksh is born. Naitik falls into a coma due to an accident.

4 years later

Akshara starts working in the family business. Naitik recovers from the coma and struggles to bond with a mischievous Naksh. Naitik's mother Gayatri dies after falling off a cliff post, and his sister Rashmi gives birth to a daughter and names her Gayatri. Akshara and Naitik's daughter Naira is born. Mahendra dies and Kaveri blames Akshara for it and disowns her. Akshara and Naitik move out with their children. 10 years later

They relocate to Cape Town. Naksh returns to Udaipur and convinces Kaveri to forgive an innocent Akshara. Eventually, the family is reunited. Naksh falls for Tara, a hockey player. However, their wedding gets called off due to some misunderstandings. Out of fear of being wrongly blamed for her friend Sukanya's death, Naira flees from Udaipur. 7 years later

Naira lives in an orphanage in Rishikesh and has grown up to be headstrong but insecure and arrogant. Akshara reaches there to fund the orphanage and finds Naira. Kartik Goenka arrives in Udaipur and a love triangle is formed between him, Gayatri, and Naira. Kartik realizes his love for Naira while Gayatri has feelings for Kartik. Naira finally accepts Akshara.

Kartik confesses his love for Naira while the latter is initially confused about her feelings but later realizes her love for Kartik. Akshara dies by falling off a cliff in a car crash.

Kartik and Naira get married. Kartik hates his father Manish and his step-mother Swarna thinking they are responsible for his mother's suicide. Eventually, he reconciles with them after finding them innocent. Naksh and Keerti get married. Initially marrying for Naira's sake, he begins to love Keerti. Naira fulfills her parents' dream of opening a dance academy and names it "Akshara Dance Academy" as a tribute to her mother. Swarna's son, Shubham dies of a drug overdose and Naira is blamed for hiding his drug addiction. Naira leaves as Kartik and Swarna refuse to trust her. 2 years later

Naira lives in Mumbai with Naitik. Kartik is the professor of the same class for which Naira signs up. Eventually, Kartik and Swarna realize their mistakes and reunite with Naira. Naira and Keerti become pregnant and both meet with an accident. Naira's child was born dead and Keerti falls into a coma after delivering a boy. Kartik swaps the babies and names the boy as Krish. Later, Naksh-Keerti learn the truth about Krish and Naira is shocked on learning about her child's death. She loses her memory in an accident, later reunites with Kartik after regaining her memory.

Later, pregnant Gayatri loses her fiance Vivaan and married Samarth, Suhasini's nephew. Naira enters the family business and Kartik feels insecure about her busy routine. Naira finds out she is pregnant. Kartik questions Naira about her relationship with her business partner, Mihir. Naira rebukes him and storms out of the house without informing her pregnancy and meets with an accident. She is presumed to be dead by the family. 5 years later

Naira lives in Goa with their son Kairav. Kartik lives in guilt for not trusting Naira and finds solace in Vansh, Gayatri's son. Soon everyone learns that Naira is alive and Kairav is Naira and Kartik's son. Despite trying to get away from each other, Kartik and Naira become closer. Soon they reunite.

Few months later, Naira gives birth to a daughter and names her Akshara. More family drama leads to Naira and Kartik moving out with Kairav and Akshara. 3 months later

The family is reunited but meets with an accident. Naira falls off a cliff and dies. Kartik is left heartbroken. Soon, Kairav meets a boxer named Sirat who is Naira's lookalike, which makes Kairav think that his mother has returned. After several demands from Kairav, Kartik brings Sirat and her grandmother to the Goenka house. Sirat reveals her former love Ranveer. Kartik realizes that Sirat and Ranveer had a misunderstanding, caused by Ranveer's father, Narendranath, and gets them married. Sirat falls for Kartik. Ranveer falls ill and dies asking Kartik to take care of Sirat. Narendranath holds Sirat responsible and gets her arrested on murder charges. Kartik bails her out and Sirat goes away from Kartik.

Later, Sirat shifts to Dalhousie changing her name to Simran. Kartik convinces her to return to Udaipur. Sirat and Kartik expose Narendranath and get married confessing their love to each other. Soon Sirat gives birth to a daughter, Aarohi. She resumes her boxing training and qualifies for the Asian Championship. 8 years later

Akshara discovers that not Sirat, but Naira is her real mother. Sirat's mother, Sheela returns and manipulates Aarohi against the family. Kartik dies in a plane crash leaving the entire family in shock. Sirat slips down the stairs and falls to her death. Aarohi holds Akshara responsible for Sirat's death and starts detesting her. 12 years later

Akshara has grown up to be a kind and family-loving girl. She is a singer and musician. Aarohi aspires to be a doctor and still hates Akshara. Dr. Abhimanyu Birla is a practicing surgeon at Birla Hospital and Medical Institute. A love triangle is formed between the three. Aarohi and Abhimanyu's marriage is fixed, but Akshara and Abhimanyu confess their love in front of their families. Both families reach Jaipur and Akshara and Abhimanyu get married in a grand ceremony. Aarohi eventually patches up with Akshara.

Later, it is revealed that Abhimanyu's father, Harshvardhan was having an extra-marital affair with Dr. Avni and Neil is their illegitimate son. Manjari had brought Neil home through adoption. Manjari and Harshvardhan head for a divorce but Harshvardhan reforms himself and they reconcile.

Soon a fire breaks out at Birla Hospital and Abhimanyu suffers a pinched nerve in his right hand. Akshara contacts a renowned physiotherapist, Dr. Kunal Khera, for his treatment. Meanwhile, Anisha proposes to Kairav for marriage but Akshara learns about her having an affair with a married man and her plan to continue the affair post-marriage and confronts her for the same which Kairav overhears. Kairav refuses to marry Anisha for her betrayal and asks her to reveal the truth to the families. Anisha, who lacks the courage to tell this truth, commits suicide and the Birla family blames Kairav and Akshara for her death thinking they are responsible for it. Later, Dr. Kunal asks Akshara to sing secretly for his sister, Maya for a year in lieu of Abhimanyu's surgery to which she agrees. 1 year later

Akshara now lives incognito in Mauritius with Kunal and Maya and remains depressed due to her separation with Abhimanyu, who has misunderstood her and became a ruthless person. Akshara and Kairav come back to India and eventually Kairav is proven innocent. Abhimanyu and Akshara reunite and remarry. Neil and Aarohi elope and get married due to which Manish disowns her. Akshara successfully restores her lost identity as Maya's voice and resumes her singing career.

Akshara gets pregnant with twins while Aarohi is also pregnant. In a bid to save some girls from kidnapping, Neil is beaten up by goons and Akshara miscarries. Before dying, Neil makes Abhimanyu promise to take care of Aarohi and his child. Akshara is blamed for Neil's death and Abhimanyu divorces her. Distraught, Akshara leaves the house and is helped by Abhinav. She finds that one of her twins is still alive. Manish requests Akshara to return to Goenkas', but she refuses and legally marries Abhinav. 6 years later

Akshara lives in Kasauli with her son, Abhir and Abhinav. On the other hand, Aarohi has become mature and Abhimanyu has taken the fatherly responsibility of her daughter, Ruhi. Abhir considers Abhinav as his father while Ruhi is aware that Neil is her father. Manjiri starts forcing Abhimanyu and Aarohi to marry for Ruhi's sake despite their refusals while Akshara and Abhinav are forcing the same by their neighbor, Neelima. Soon, Abhimanyu ends up meeting Akshara, Abhinav, and Abhir. Initially shocked, he decides to move on. Abhimanyu and Aarohi decide to get married for Ruhi's sake.

Akshara, Abhinav, and Abhir return to Udaipur for Suhasini's birthday. Abhir is revealed to have a hole in his heart and everyone learns that Abhir is Akshara and Abhimanyu's son. Abhir is recovered after Abhimanyu does his surgery. Kairav falls in love with Neelima's granddaughter, Muskaan and they marry. Soon Abhimanyu wins Abhir's custody depressing Akshara while Abhir too runs away from Birla House. After a chase he's found and Abhimanyu gives up custody. Later both families gather to celebrate Abhinav's birthday and Abhimanyu takes the former for a drink on a cliff where he falls off and dies while Abhimanyu is accused of his murder. Later he is proven innocent while Abhir unable to cope with Abhinav's death slips into depression. For Abhir's health Abhimanyu and Akshara decide to marry once again while Akshara is revealed to be pregnant with Abhinav's child. 22 years later

Akshara lives with her daughter Abhira. Soon Armaan and Ruhi fall for each other. Abhira is being troubled by her stalker Yuvraaj who intends to marry her. Ruhi gets heartbroken after Armaan fails to reach her due to case hearings of Yuvraaj and gets ready to marry his half-brother Rohit. Yuvraaj forcefully tries to marry Abhira by keeping Akshara as hostage. Armaan saves her but Akshara gets a shot and asks him to marry Abhira to save her, and dies. Poddars starts harassing Abhira post her entry in Poddar house and she struggles to continue her studies while Rohit leaves home and is persumed dead after learning about Armaan and Ruhi's affair before marriage and latter starts getting jealous of Armaan and Abhira's married life. Adarshayushman (talk) 13:04, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 November 2023

Please put Aarohi and Ruhi in Main list, They both are also one of the main leads. Why is the plot trimmed? Now the plot looks very boring so please extend it. Yrkkh4438 (talk) 14:49, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NotAGenious (talk) 15:41, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 November 2023

Please extend the plot. It's toooo short Yrkkh4438 (talk) 15:31, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Please note that Wikipedia articles are a summary, and plots should not be heavily detailed. The MOS:TVPLOT page has the guidelines for television show articles, including the plot length. Ravensfire (talk) 05:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC) Ravensfire (talk) 05:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 4 December 2023

I want to add that Abhinav and Akshara falls in love before the part where it says Akshara is pregnant with Abhinav's child 92.6.40.13 (talk) 19:23, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

I want to make this change because this is what actually happened. Abhimanyu might have loved Akshara till his last breath but it is clear that Akshara loved Abhinav before and even after his death. Even after the generation leap it is shown that Akshara is remembering Abhinav not Abhimanyu. The only time she remembered him is when she thought of BOTH Abhir and Abhimanyu's death which obviously had to happen as they died together so will be remembered together. 92.6.40.13 (talk) 19:30, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

you have to add what's there in the plot and not what you feel. Also akshara remembered both abhimanyu and abhir at the time of her death Adarshayushman (talk) 13:03, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 21:49, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

you have to add what's there in the plot and not what you feel. Also akshara remembered both abhimanyu and abhir at the time of her death

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 January 2024

122.161.68.141 (talk) 23:11, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ℰmi1y_⧼T·C⧽ 09:48, 17 January 2024 (UTC)