Talk:You're Losing Me

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“From the Vault” is a subtitle.[edit]

Every Taylor Swift song that has “(from the Vault)” is not part of the official title of the song, “from the Vault” is just a subtitle. Look at Message in a Bottle (Taylor Swift song), it is fully titled “Message in a Bottle (Taylor’s Version) (from the Vault)” on Apple Music, Amazon and physical CDs, however the page makes note that “(Taylor’s Version) (from the Vault)” are subtitles and not part the official title of the song itself. The same applies with “You’re Losing Me” so it should not be included in the infobox as part of the title nor should it be falsely claimed as being part of the title when it isn’t. So let’s stop with the WP:Vandalism, have some consistency and leave the subtitle out of the infobox and stop saying the song is officially titled that when it isn’t. The song is also registered as just “You’re Losing Me”. Thank you. 92.1.70.84 (talk) 12:45, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also another song that makes the point as well is I Bet You Think About Me another song with the subtitle “(Taylor’s Version) (from the Vault)”, has it noted but does not include either as part of the title in the infobox. 92.1.70.84 (talk) 13:21, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Stop Adding Album subtitle[edit]

Songs from different editions of an album do not need to have the subtitle of the edition in the infobox. That would be like adding the subtitles to Target or Walmart exclusive versions of the same album. It’s just unnecessary when it can just be noted. Look at Ours (song), this song was exclusively on the Target Exclusive (actual name on the side of the album) version and yet you don’t see that title in the infobox, it just says Speak Now. So let’s keep things consistent and stop with the WP:Vandalism and leave subtitles out of the infobox. 92.1.70.84 (talk) 13:00, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is no "Deluxe album" designation in the "Ours" infobox because Swift and the label explicitly said that it was a single for Speak Now generally. It is not the case for this song or other Midnights 3AM Edition songs. Ippantekina (talk) 05:01, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It’s the same thing! Same album different edition. It’s being inconsistent to include subtitles of albums. 147.147.63.15 (talk) 16:19, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Nominator: Gained (talk · contribs) 05:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Pollosito (talk · contribs) 21:58, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]


GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
    a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Hey, @Gained. I will be reviewing this article in a few days. I'm a little unsure because this article is about my idol, Taylor Swift, and I want to try not to screw up with this review. Also, so that maybe you can nominate the topic Midnights to good quickly. Best, Santi (talk) 21:58, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright[edit]

  • Let's start with the most urgent. I'm so scared that this article has the 78.8% copyright violation to a ref that isn't in the article. I guess it's an encyclopedia that copied this article, or something is up. Honestly, I don't know what to do with that.
  • With the matter resolved, we see that the article has less than 20% similarity, plus its percentage is in green, so everything is fine in this sense.

Lead[edit]

  • "number 56" => "number 27" for body.

Background and release[edit]

  • Although it was not previously required of you in previous nominations, I think you should look for another reference that confirms the album's release on October 21, 2022.
  • It would be nice if the presence of "Hits Different" on the CD-exclusive Target album edition and "You're Losing Me" on the Late Night Edition (also the announcement of this edition release) were confirmed more explicitly on the first paragraph.
  • Reconfigurate refs 7 and 10. They are the same.
  • No reference mentions that the "pirated" song was uploaded on social media and that Universal took it down for copyright reasons. I think that part needs to be improved.

Composition and lyrics[edit]

  • The reference 15 does not mention that the song is "atmospheric."
  • "autobiographical"... I don't know if I should leave it like this because of the intention, or if we should rather reread the source.
    • Although it's not explicit or not that easy to find but the Variety source wrote that it's "likely to be perceived as personal, not fictional", which alludes to the song being autobiographical. Gained (talk) 04:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Critical reception[edit]

  • Passed.

Commercial performance[edit]

  • Isn't there more specific impressive information about the song's global performance as well as the one it had in the United States?
    • I think every source regarding its chart performance has been used within the article.

Personnel[edit]

  • The truth is I don't know what difference there is between quoting Tidal and the liner notes of Midnights, but it's approved.

Charts[edit]

  • Passed.

Comments[edit]

  • Take as much time as you want, because I understand the tight schedule you have; I have it too, but a little lighter. Regarding copyright, I suppose it is more of a platform error than really plagiarism. It also made the mistake of saying that Satellite (Bebe Rexha and Snoop Dogg song) did not have any similarity with its sources, something absurdly impossible. However, what worries me is that another reviewer will observe this and sanction the article for X reason. OMG, I think I'm worried too much. Santi (talk) 22:12, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hey @Pollosito! Thanks for choosing this article to review. I don't think you need to be worried because the ref that caused all this is a Swift fan page that for some reason copied many of the article's content. Unfortunately, I would be gone entirely for a few days so I'm pretty sure I won't make a single edit in that time period. Gained (talk) 11:51, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Look, I'm still confused about the changes made to the "Background and release" section, where the adjective went from "pirated" to "unofficial." However, I think it's common sense, so I think there's not that much of a problem, because the truth is I'm a very literal boy sometimes (and sometimes that's why they can't stand me LOL) Santi (talk) 02:07, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Pollosito Honestly I sometimes simplify my conversations to that when people don't understand what I'm trying to explain, and even if I simplify it, they still don't understand LOL. I don't know if I could simplify the info anymore because I have no more ideas on how to do that. Nevertheless, I believe I have addressed all the points you given. Gained (talk) 04:52, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gained: Ok, so the article has been  Passed. However, I'll do the whole process tomorrow because, first, I'm on my phone and I hate editing that way, and lastly, because I have to sleep. Congratulations anyway! Santi (talk) 05:00, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

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  • ... that following the release of Taylor Swift's song "You're Losing Me" on a CD edition of her album Midnights, fans widely shared it on social media? Source: Willman, Chris (May 26, 2023). "Taylor Swift Has Fans Losing It with the Lyrics of New Song 'You're Losing Me'". Variety.
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: This is my first time nominating an article for DYK, please let me know if there's any mistakes.
Improved to Good Article status by Gained (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Gained (talk) 15:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Date of GA status, close paraphrase check checks out. No QPQ needed. That said, I'd encourage reflection on ALT hook, considering that Swift was a major international star when the album was released it is not unusual that the song was shared widely. Perhaps the fact that the album was sold at a specific event should be highlighted. --Soman (talk) 15:43, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Soman, I made two alternative hooks with the added location of where the CD was sold, both are just arranged differently. Does this suffice? Gained (talk) 10:43, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
for ALT1/ALT2, ok good, my preference is ALT2. --Soman (talk) 10:55, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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