Talk:Young People's Socialist League (Socialist Party USA)

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Too many splits[edit]

In its current form, the article states that YPSL left the SP in 1919 to join with what became the CP USA. But then it describes YPSL's involvement with mid-30s faction fights in the SP, and reports that it left the SP in 1937 to join with the SWP. But then the next sentence talks about "the Socialist Party's YPSL" in the '50s.

I gather from this that YPSL as a whole did not actually change its affiliation at these points, but rather that some portion of its membership broke away to form new groups, while some remained behind. Perhaps this would be less confusing language to use, especially if anybody has any information on how many stayed and how many left. -David Schaich Talk/Cont 00:53, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot 11:45, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This image is owned by YPSL, so I think it's okay if it's on YPSL's wikipedia page. Stupid bots.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Handle 2001 (talk • contribs)

No, that's not how it works. This is not YPSL's Wikipedia page; it's the page in Wikipedia about YPSL. We have no inherent legal right to use their intellectual property just because this article is about them. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:01, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Three arrows[edit]

I would suggest that "three arrows originally stood for the German socialist movement's opposition to three enemies of democracy: communism, monarchism, and fascism (in Germany: Nazism)" is not correct. Firstly the last element should be Nazism, as it is the German movement that used this symbol. Secondly monarchism is and was not an enemy of democracy. The democratic institutions in Germany were created under the monarchy. Thirdly it would not be enemies of democracy, but enemies of socialist - or more accurately the league was the enemy of communism, monarchism, and Nazism (not that communism, monarchism, and Nazism were the enemies of socialism). Of course even that is not correct, as Nazism was itself socialist.Royalcourtier (talk) 04:28, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If you find a reference for any of that please let us know. --Duncan (talk) 20:13, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]


"monarchism is and was not an enemy of democracy." signed by Royal Courtier? Hilarious. And monarchism is absolutely an enemy of democracy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18D:580:8FC9:5948:BEB7:A8C4:1D5A (talk) 16:32, 29 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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