Talk:Zero-configuration networking

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Microsoft against UPnP and for DPWS[edit]

Microsoft is not supporting UPnP anymore. One clear sign of this is that Vista only supports UPnP v1.0. Apparently - Microsoft wanted to pass throught their DPWS (Device profile for Web services) as UPnP v2.0. Since UPnP forum prioritised backwards-compatibility - it didnt go any further. However, Microsoft has implemented DPWS in Vista. Meaning - Microsoft will try to fight this war alone, and abandon UPnP. Can anyone tell me why!? DPWS is "very good", but so is UPnP. It really seems to me that both do the same thing - only in a different way. One can hardly say one is better than the other.


Was this renamed OpenTalk?

No, this is now called Bonjour (trademark problems, I believe). Here's an updated link: Apple's implementation--198.3.8.1 22:01, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What about Windows XP's "Wireless Zero Configuration Utility" (the regular WLAN tool). Is that also Zeroconf? --Abdull 19:20, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Not sure, but I kinda doubt it. Microsoft has a competing discovery protocol - UPnP (universal plug-n-play). Apple did have a downloadable beta of zeroconf for windows, but it seems to have been removed from their site. I think they were planning on releasing it officially later in 2005.

With the name change to "Bonjour" (stupid name for something so cool), Apple has released a 1.0 of "Bonjour for Windows," which can be found at their site.
Corrected link above to new version djm101

Suggested Merger[edit]

I vote yes. I don't know who suggested merging Multicast DNS into this article, but it's a good suggestion. There's not enough information for its own article. -- HarrisX 13:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Me too (I always wanted to say that, and now I can ;-) ) -- Macfreek 12:26, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't yet know the details, but I think the article for mdns should be augmented rather than merged. The name "zeroconf" was used for an ietf working group and thus has connotations of signifying IETF standardization, but it seems that the dust hasn't settled yet on whether mdns or LLMNR is likely to be standardized. --NealMcB 16:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the above and with a new contribution of mDNS packet structure, I've revived the article and moved the new contribution there. --Kvng (talk) 14:48, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

mDNSResponder[edit]

What's Apple's mDNSResponder, and what's it doing in the Bonjour section ? --Jerome Potts (talk) 14:03, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

mDNSResponder is the name of the application/driver/deamon that implements the network protocols that support Bonjour features. ~Kvng (talk) 21:18, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Linux[edit]

This article should mention the use and implementation of Zeroconf in Linux above all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.27.231.221 (talk) 23:33, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, no, no! And why would anyone think it should be? Just in case this commenter was not trolling, or there are people who honestly share that opinion:

Even if the article were to be restricted to the set of protocols most commonly associated with the term zero configuration networking, those protocols were conceived of and sheparded through the RFC approval process primarily by Stuart Chesire, who along the way was hired by Apple to work on their implementation (now known as Bonjour). The Linux implementation (Avahi) came later.
And I feel compelled to point out that there are way more Macs and IOS owners using Bonjour than there are Linux owners actually using Avahi, and possibly even more Windows owners using Bonjour without even knowing it (because it's part of iTunes for that platform). In case you're wondering, I use all three. Joeldbenson (talk) 22:13, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]