Template:Did you know nominations/Bronisław Malinowski

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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 13:33, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

Bronisław Malinowski

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Bronisław Malinowski

~~... that Bronisław Malinowski, an eminent anthropologist of the interbellum, made major contributions to the areas of fieldwork, culture, psychology, and economics, among others?~~ Source: easily verified with virtually any cited biography of his, including academic encyclopedic treatments that are accessible through the Wikipedia Library like https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/9781118896877.wbiehs279
- ALT1: ... that contributions of anthropologist Bronisław Malinowski include dispelling stereotypes about "primitive" economics, superstition and sexuality, and moving anthropology "off the verandah"? Source: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/book/10.1002/9781118924396 + sources present in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off_the_verandah and in the article here in the relevant paragraph
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Banu Kalb
- Comment: The second hook might generate more views, it mentions sex :P

Improved to Good Article status by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 05:33, 14 January 2023 (UTC).

Comment Hooks seem to slightly underplay this major figure. As he was British, the article needs to use British English, which it doesn't seem to. Please check over. I'm not reviewing this. "Interbellum" will not be familiar to many - "inter-war years" might be better. Johnbod (talk) 02:22, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- My spellchecker is probably set to American English. I have no objection if anyone runes a American-to-English script, but in either case, I don't think this is a DYK-level concern. I don't mind changing interbellu to interwar, but it's linked anwyay, the readers might as well learn a new term - it may increase click-through rate... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:20, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
  - Not really good enough. Just reset your spell-checker for a while. WP:ENGVAR is policy, which should be observed for DYK. Johnbod (talk) 05:43, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
    - I've never heard of this level of nitpicking applicable to DYKs, and I don't intend to waste my time with it. WP:DYKCRIT requires observing core policies like V and NPOV; noone considers ENGVAR a core policy - it is not enforced outside FA-level.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:46, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
    - ENGVAR is not policy, Johnbod, and (intentionally) nowhere in the DYK criteria is MOS compliance mandated. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 01:13, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
      Nothing (much) in Wikipedia:Manual of Style is policy. But MOS compliance is expected at GA, so this should not have passed. Johnbod (talk) 16:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
      @Johnbod: GA only mandates MOS compliance for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation. ENGVAR isn't in any of those; FA mandates full MOS compliance. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:30, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:45, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting: - ALT0 and ALT1 both don't contain anything particularly surprising and also try to cram in too much. Our goal isn't to show how important he was to anthropology; it's to pique readers' interest enough to get them to check it out. I've proposed an ALT2 below.
Other problems: - I would suggest ALT2: ...that the discovery of anthropologist Bronisław Malinowski's diary after his death sparked "a moral crisis of the discipline"?

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Overall, everything looks good (with much covered during the GAN) except for the interestingness issue. As noted above by Theleekycauldron, the MOS issue is not a blocker. (I also see other room for MOS improvement, such as the phrase he co-founded the Polish Institute of Arts and Sciences of America, of which he became its first president, but that's for the FAC.) If ALT2 is good with you, approved for that. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:35, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Sdkb, Thank you for your review. I am fine with your ALT2, although I think ALT1 which mentions "sex" is hooky enough. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:20, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

@Piotrus and Sdkb:

ALT2 needs an independent reviewer, so I'll get on that; who said "moral crisis of the discipline"? The article doesn't make that clear. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:13, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: The source for that quote should be https://doi.org/10.1002%2F9781118896877.wbiehs279 . --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:25, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

@Piotrus: could the article provide inline attribution? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:26, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron: Done. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 10:52, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

coolcool, good to go :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 21:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)