Template:Did you know nominations/Cow-calf
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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 14:10, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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Cow-calf
- ... that trains can be pulled by cows?
This might make a good quirky hook.(?)Source: Schafer, Mike (1998). Vintage diesel locomotives. Osceola, WI: Motorbooks International. p. 23.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Agua Fria Union High School District
- Comment: Open to alternate wordings such as "that trains can be pulled by cattle?"
Improved to Good Article status by Trainsandotherthings (talk). Self-nominated at 02:13, 8 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Cow-calf; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.
GA status is new enough, and article is long enough. Clear, neutral, adequately sourced, no copyvio or obvious issues with close paraphrasing or plagiarism. QPQ done. This is a fun, interesting hook. My only issue is that the hook needs to be cited in-line - a citation needs to be placed directly after the sentence in which the fact appears. Per WP:DYK, "Citations at the end of the paragraph are not sufficient. This rule applies even when a citation would not be required for the purposes of the article." Can you please cite the hook in line, Trainsandotherthings (talk)? Then I can approve it for DYK. Topshelver (talk) 17:58, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Almost every single sentence in the history section, where the "cow" nickname is cited and identified, has an inline citation, including the one in question, so I'm not sure what you're asking. The hook is supported by
In a cow-calf set, the cow referred to the locomotive equipped with a cab, while calves lacked a cab.
which is directly cited to Foster's A Field Guide to Trains of North America. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:05, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- Almost every single sentence in the history section, where the "cow" nickname is cited and identified, has an inline citation, including the one in question, so I'm not sure what you're asking. The hook is supported by
- I guess I'm wondering if you can cite the first sentence in the article, where cow-calf is first defined. There is a citation at the end of that first paragraph; I'd want to see a citation at the end of that first sentence as well. I'm probably being persnickety, but I've been dinged by DYK administrators over such details. Topshelver (talk) 20:51, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- This seems like excessive and pointless bureaucracy to me, considering the term is defined in the history section as I said above, but I've added another inline cite just the same. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:40, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
Good to go. Topshelver (talk) 14:11, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- This seems like excessive and pointless bureaucracy to me, considering the term is defined in the history section as I said above, but I've added another inline cite just the same. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:40, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- I guess I'm wondering if you can cite the first sentence in the article, where cow-calf is first defined. There is a citation at the end of that first paragraph; I'd want to see a citation at the end of that first sentence as well. I'm probably being persnickety, but I've been dinged by DYK administrators over such details. Topshelver (talk) 20:51, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
