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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 13:45, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Deutsche Zentral Zeitung[edit]

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  • ALT1:... that the communist newspaper, Deutsche Zentral Zeitung, ran volumes of show trial transcripts, but never the consequences, though several writers and an editor-in-chief were among the victims?
  • ALT2:... that the Deutsche Zentral Zeitung, a Moscow-based Communist Party newspaper for Germans, stopped publishing after 12 years and had no successor for 18 years?
  • Reviewed: Memogate Scandal
  • Comment: The first two hooks are the more interesting, but more complicated and therefore, longer. I wrote a third one for the timorous, but prefer the first two.

Created/expanded by Marrante (talk). Self nom at 22:01, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

  • The date of creation, length and the original hook and ALT2 and their citations are fine. There did not seem to be a statement backing ALT1 in the article. I found no evidence of close paraphrasing. I prefer the original hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:18, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Sorry, Annenkova is mentioned, not by the purges precisely, but one of the alleged conspiracies (all of which were part of the purges). There were others, but I either put the mention of their arrests elsewhere or forgot to do it. When I write these hooks, I more or less do a brain dump of what I've read. In learning information that I can use to find pages to link to an article I'm working on, I have sometimes left such information on those pages, rather than the article I'm writing, but as information, it just stays in my head as something I've recently written about. I will try to add some of those other names in, but can't do it at the moment. Marrante (talk) 13:07, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
  • I just added Wehner's name to the list of DZZ people who were arrested. Knodt was mentioned already, but in a footnote. I moved that part of the footnote up to the text in a sentence with Wehner's name. Both names are footnoted. I'm sure there are others, but I have to leave shortly and can't do more at the moment. But this gives you three names, so I think you can use ALT1 with a slight modification ("at least two writers" instead of "several") if you prefer. I think the added element of the staff victims shows the hypocrisy and control even more. Marrante (talk) 14:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
  • I am happy with ALT1 now. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:17, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
  • I'd like to put a brief hold on this. In looking for more names of DZZ staff who were arrested, I just came across a French source that explains the situation even better, including why the paper stopped publishing in 1939. I hope to have this information added to the article later today. I may write another hook or two, as well. Thanks. Marrante (talk) 08:28, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
  • I've added a bunch more names, though there are three that have only surnames. I'm hunting down first names, but two of the names are very common, so this is not that easy. In the meantime, the main info that I wanted to add is there, so if you want to proceed, do. I'm mixed about leaving the unidentified surnames in there and there are a few other bits to add as well. In the meantime, here is a new hook that casts a different light on things. Sorry to be adding this after the review was finished, but I think this is significant.
— Marrante (talk) 12:12, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Let's go with ALT3. This is an interesting article and you have put a lot of work into researching it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:37, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
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