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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by Theleekycauldron (talk) 21:35, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

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Gwen Stacy (Spider-Verse)

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Moved to mainspace by Soulbust (talk). Self-nominated at 05:32, 26 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Gwen Stacy (Spider-Verse); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • Will take a look at this tomorrow if no one beats me to it. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 05:41, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
  • I'm not reviewing, but I will comment that Filmic analysis seems to be lacking any analysis for her appearance in Into the Spider-Verse, given the abundance of analysis for the second film. I would think that WP:NPOV is affected. Also her actions in the first film are incomplete. starship.paint (exalt) 16:04, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
  • Just saw the movie the other day with my polycule, and had a long talk on the drive home about transness in the film, so I was excited to see this put up for DYK. Sadly, though, I've encountered close paraphrasing issues beyond what can be quickly remedied.
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Some fans also suggested Gwen's father is briefly seen with a trans pin on his police uniform. In another, Gwen’s father is briefly seen with a trans flag pinned to his police uniform. CNN: ‘Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse’ may have a trans character. Here’s why fans say it matters (Earwig's)
comics writer and longtime fan Zoe Tunnell Zoe Tunnell, a comics writer and longtime fan
It is revealed that after performing scientific experiments on himself, Earth-65's Peter Parker turns into the supervillain known as the Lizard. As the Lizard, Peter attacks a high school dance to enact revenge on his bullies. Gwen, as Spider-Woman, battles him but is unaware she is battling her friend. As a result of the battle, Peter suffers lethal injuries and before dying, transforms back into his human form. Upon realizing she inadvertently killed her best friend, Gwen is devastated. Her father arrives on the scene and devotes himself to leading the manhunt to capture her. After Gwen became Spider-Woman, her best friend Peter Parker (Jack Quaid) performed scientific experiments on himself, turning himself into the supervillain known as the Lizard. When he attacked a school dance in order to get revenge on the bullies that tormented him Gwen battled Peter as Spider-Woman, unaware that she was fighting her friend. During the fight Peter sustained lethal injuries and before his death transformed back into his human self, with Gwen devastated to learn what had happened. Gwen’s father, Police Captain George Stacy (Shea Whigham), arrived on the scene, leading him to believe that Spider-Woman murdered Peter, after which he devoted himself to her arrest. Collider: This 'Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse' World Is Damn Near Perfect (Earwig's)
his father, who will become a police captain as well, must die as a "canon event" all Spider-heroes must experience Miles refuses to accept Miguel’s belief that all spider-heroes must experience the death of a police captain, which he calls a “canon event”, which means that Miles’ father Jeff (Brian Tyree Henry) must die.
The Spider-Society has theories about canon events and anomalies, which Jess and Miguel share with Gwen, who accepts them as facts. Miguel and the Spider-Society assert that Miles is the original anomaly and that his father, who will become a police captain as well, must die as a "canon event" that all Spider-heroes must experience. Miles, set on saving his father escapes from Miguel and the Spider-Society. Seeing Gwen as a liability, Miguel expels Gwen from the Spider-Society, with him and Jess knowing Gwen will possibly be arrested upon her return to her home universe. Since they first met, Jess never gives Gwen a reason to question what the Spider Society does, so Gwen accepts the theories about canon events and anomalies as fact until she comes face to face with Miles.

Once she realizes what she's become a part of, her once-trusted mentor is no longer in her corner. Jess allows Miguel to expel Gwen from Spider Society, sending her back to a universe where, as far as Jess knows, Gwen will likely be arrested.

CBR: Across the Spider-Verse Sets up a Mentorship Better Than Peter and Miles (Earwig's)
  • Some of those are more egregious than others, but this is also just a partial check of the Earwig's output, and doesn't represent a check for subtler close paraphrasing issues either. For that reason, I have no choice but to quickfail this pending further review for close paraphrasing. I don't like mixing admin and reviewer hats, so I'll drop a ping to Moneytrees here for the copyright side. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 19:24, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
@Starship.paint: Yes of course, given the fact she has a quite expanded role in the sequel, it makes sense that there would be more analysis of her appearance in the second film. I'll seek out more sourcing on analysis for her Into appearance, and I'll work to add more to her Into appearances section, because that is missing some information.
@Tamzin: Would like to withdraw the dyk nom. I'll see what I can do to help the earwig concerns. Soulbust (talk) 20:56, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
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