Template:Did you know nominations/Hawksmoor (restaurant)
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:50, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
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Hawksmoor (restaurant), Ginger Pig[edit]
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- ... that Hawksmoor serves steaks (pictured) from Ginger Pig longhorns?
- Reviewed: Great British Meal
- Comment: I started the Ginger Pig article to eliminate the red link but, as its name makes an interesting hook (longhorn pigs!?), it would be good to make this a double DYK. The picture is provisional - I need to look back through my own photos as I have eaten there myself.
Created by Andrew Davidson (talk), Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk) at 18:31, 24 June 2014 (UTC).
Both articles are long enough and new enough. The hook is intriguing and has an inline citation to an offline source. Other references for Hawksmoor are mostly behind paywalls. The article Ginger Pig does not include the hook fact but I think that is not a DYK requirement. The image is appropriately licensed and I observed no policy issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:19, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Second QPQ needed as Andrew and Northamerica each has over five DYKs already. BobAmnertiopsis∴ChatMe! 21:57, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
- I have just reviewed Frank Ringo and will do more to get that back on track. I have started adding more images to the Hawksmoor article and updated the one suggested for DYK use. Andrew (talk) 12:56, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you, Andrew Davidson. Second QPQ done. It is not an initial full review, but nevertheless it contributes significantly to the nom process. Positive element of initial review by Cwmhiraeth still stands, and is taken on trust. I'll expand on policy issues in the hope of forestalling delays on this nom (this is a confirmation, not to question the review). Both articles are objective, neutral and fully referenced. At first sight the Hawksmoor article appears a little too positive, perhaps even verging on the promotional ("to offer high-quality, well-butchered beef" and "especially successful") but in context these are basic facts explaining initial purpose, and verbalising the very high profit made - and it is balanced by the negative criticism by Gill at the end. Spot checks for sources of copyvio and close paraphrasing found no matches. The hook checks out with offline citation #3 in the Hawksmoor article. Issue: The hook is not repeated in the Ginger Pig article, so we don't know which citation in Ginger Pig is supposed to support it. When the hook and its inline citation has been added to Ginger Pig, this nom should be OK. --Storye book (talk) 10:25, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
- Andrew Davidson, are you planning on doing anything to address Storye book's points, or should we close this nomination (that sounds more imperious than I meant it to, but you get the gist; you can imagine me swooping out of the sky like a Valkyrie if it motivates you.) Belle (talk) 13:03, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
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- Just pinging you again, Andrew, as we'll have to close this soon or we'll miss our performance targets for DYK and then we won't get our bonuses. Belle (talk) 13:00, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- I'll get right on it. I'm on the volunteer team for Wikimania and don't want our guests to miss out on this fine dining experience! Andrew (talk) 14:27, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
I've added more content to the Ginger Pig article with another citation which supports the hook and so both articles should pass now. I have more photos to add and so will do more this evening. But that's gravy and so the nomination should be able to proceed now. Note that one reason I wrote the article was because Wikimania is in town and so food project members might like to try the place for its fine steaks, triple-cooked chips, &c. It would be good if it could go to DYK on Friday or Saturday. Andrew (talk) 17:22, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
Passing on the basis of Cwmhiraeth's and Storye book's (computer still not fixed?!?) earlier reviews and the fix up. Picture looks a bit scary at that resolution but is usable. Note the date request for 8th or 9th August (I'm so efficient today) Belle (talk) 17:42, 5 August 2014 (UTC)