Template:Did you know nominations/Kusumamala
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 12:29, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
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Kusumamala[edit]
... that Kusumamala has a poem titled Megh, a Gujarati translation of English romantic poet Shelley's poem "The Cloud"?Source: Choudhuri, Indra Nath, ed. (2016). Encyclopaedia of Indian Literature: I-L. New Delhi: Sahitya Akademi. p. 2988. ISBN 978-81-260-4758-1
Created by Gazal world (talk). Self-nominated at 10:52, 10 March 2018 (UTC).
- New? Unfortunately the nomination was not submitted in a timely fashion. Created 21 February, nominated 10 March; which is more than 7 days. At the point of nomination it was 6,480 bytes; 7 days earlier it was 4,164 bytes. It is not a GA. An unfortunate mistake by a new editor with their first DYK nomination. Otherwise things look good. If there is any way of appealing this unfortunate situation I would support it, but as things stand it is ineligible. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:42, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild: Hey Gog, the article was moved on 9 March from Draft space to Main space. See history. --Gazal world (talk) 12:02, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
- Well the "rules" state within seven days of coming out of sandbox, but I have been advised that I can exercise some discretion, so I shall.
- Nominated within 7 days of coming out of draft.
- Passes Earwig.
- 3,000 characters excluding the block quote.
- Not a stub.
- Article is appropriately cited.
- Sources are reliable.
- Hook is directly cited.
- No BLP involved.
- So far as I can ascertain it is original work. (It could do with a copy edit.)
- It is neutrally written. POVs are cited and balanced.
The hook.
- Is inherently interesting.
- Is written to grab attention.
- The use of English could be improved.
- First nomination, so QPQ does not apply.
How would you feel about "...that Kusumamala translated the poem The Cloud by English romantic poet Shelley into Gujarati as Megh? Gog the Mild (talk) 13:34, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild:, I am proposing more clear and new blurb here (ALT2). I am helping on nominator's request. I also have copyedited the article.-Nizil (talk) 05:40, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Gujarati poetry collection Kusumamala includes a translation of The Cloud, a poem by English poet Shelley?(111 characters)Source: Choudhuri, Indra Nath, ed. (2016). Encyclopaedia of Indian Literature: I-L. New Delhi: Sahitya Akademi. p. 2988. ISBN 978-81-260-4758-1
- Is it OK now?-Nizil (talk) 05:40, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Nizil Shah: That would be fine. Unless you or Gazal world prefer:
- ALT3:... that the Gujarati poetry collection Kusumamala includes a translation of The Cloud, a poem by English romantic poet Shelley? (128 characters)
- Thats OK too. @Gazal world:, please choose one. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 10:55, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Nizil Shah: @Gog the Mild: It would be fine, if we can add original Gujarati title, Megh, in hook. --Gazal world (talk) 11:11, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Gazal world:, Gujarati title Megh means Cloud but it will not be understood by English readers so it is not important in hook and including Megh will make hook more complicated, long and difficult to read in one go. Hook should be short, catchy and easy to understand with limited information. For more information, they will be drawn to the article. But if you still want to include it, I propose this:
ALT4:... that the Gujarati poetry collection Kusumamala includes a poem titled Megh which is the translation of The Cloud, a poem by English romantic poet Shelley?(155 characters)
- What do you think? Regards, -Nizil (talk) 11:25, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- O.K. I understand. I am fine with ALT3. Thanks. --Gazal world (talk) 11:40, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Gazal world:, Gujarati title Megh means Cloud but it will not be understood by English readers so it is not important in hook and including Megh will make hook more complicated, long and difficult to read in one go. Hook should be short, catchy and easy to understand with limited information. For more information, they will be drawn to the article. But if you still want to include it, I propose this:
- @Nizil Shah: That would be fine. Unless you or Gazal world prefer:
- @Nizil Shah:@Gazal world: If you want snappy, how about:
ALT5:... The Cloud, a poem by English romantic poet Shelley, has been translated into Gujarati?Gog the Mild (talk) 11:46, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- ALT3 is ok. ALT5 is not fine. It is necessary to put Kusumamala in hook. Gazal world (talk) 11:50, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Nizil Shah:@Gazal world: If you want snappy, how about:
- @Gazal world:You're the nominator, ALT3 it is. Thank you for your patience. And thank you to Nizil Shah too.
- ALT3:... that the Gujarati poetry collection Kusumamala includes a translation of The Cloud, a poem by English romantic poet Shelley?
Review - see bullet points above. 128 characters. I find it an interesting and catchy hook. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:37, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this, and first gave it a thorough copyedit for English grammar. Gog the Mild, checking for grammatical errors should also be part of your DYK review, as the article will appear on the Main Page and be seen by thousands of readers. I added a "citation needed" tag to one paragraph, per Rule D2. Yoninah (talk) 21:59, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Yoninah: Thanks for your concern and copy editing. I have added suitable reference for that paragraph. Please see. --Gazal world (talk) 06:46, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
