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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 00:08, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

Liu Zhaohua

Created by Imcdc (talk). Self-nominated at 17:15, 3 June 2022 (UTC).
Nominator is QPQ-exempt (3 credits) Schwede66 02:20, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

  • Even though the person is deceased and thus BLP doesn't apply, I'm really not sure if the hook proposed is a good idea. "Notorious" isn't mentioned in the article (only in one of the sources) and is subjective anyway. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:24, 4 June 2022 (UTC)


  • ALT1: ... that Liu Zhaohua was a Chinese drug lord who produced and trafficked over 18 tonnes of methamphetamine?
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Hi, I have created a more neutral sounding hook as an alternative -Imcdc (talk) 02:04, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
    • @Narutolovehinata5:. I think you misunderstand. notorious means "famous or well known, typically for some bad quality or deed." So when the authorities have you tried, convicted and executed then I think nearly everyone would say that you are a) well known and b) did a bad deed and this is in no way subjective... and Wikipedia would not care if you were living ... this is a notorious person. It doesn't matter if the word is actally used. Editors are required to paraphrase. Victuallers (talk) 13:20, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
New enough, long enough, well cited, hook multiply cited. GTG. Suggestion (not for DYK), I think it would be useful to have the value of 200 kYuan converted to USD so there is a direct comparison in the lede and body. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:36, 13 July 2022 (UTC)