Template:Did you know nominations/London Hughes: To Catch a D*ck
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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London Hughes: To Catch a D*ck
- ... that while waiting to film London Hughes: To Catch a D*ck for Netflix, London Hughes was offered a role on History of Swear Words to talk about dick? Source: I was waiting to film my special and I got to do History of Swear Words. Now that Netflix knew about my show To Catch a D*ck, they were like,"Well, maybe London could talk about dick on this," which is great
- ALT1: ... that London Hughes was stuck living in Los Angeles after moving to record To Catch a D*ck, shortly before COVID-19 led to travel restrictions and the recording's indefinite delay? Source: ... And then two weeks in, a global pandemic hit. The special didn't get canceled, but got put on hold. (...) I'm literally stuck in LA, because I can't go back to the UK because Trump put a ban on visas. I wouldn't be allowed back in America if I left.
- ALT2:... that after performing London Hughes: To Catch a D*ck at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe, London Hughes became the first black woman nominee for Best Comedy Show at the Edinburgh Comedy Awards? Source: Hughes originally performed To Catch a D*ck at the 2019 Edinburgh Fringe Festival, where she was the first Black woman to receive a nomination for Best Show
- Reviewed: Wabbit (video game)
Created by Bilorv (talk). Self-nominated at 22:37, 13 February 2021 (UTC).
- I'll review this one by tomorrow evening. On the basics: it's new enough, long enough, and QPQ is done. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 03:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Scanning for any sourcing/policy issues, none jump out. Spot checking a few claims to sources checks out (minor thing might be that the source cited for it being "first performed" at The Pleasance doesn't verify that it was the first time it was performed, but that's not relevant to the hooks here).
- Hooks:
- I think the subject of the first hook is probably "hookiest" but I worry a little about making a claim of Netflix's motivation cited just to what the subject said in an interview. Like, maybe that was her interpretation rather than actually why? A quick search doesn't turn up another source which makes the connection.
ALT2 says "first black nominee" while the source says "first black woman".
ALT1 is a bit long, and IMO least interesting of the three.
- I think the subject of the first hook is probably "hookiest" but I worry a little about making a claim of Netflix's motivation cited just to what the subject said in an interview. Like, maybe that was her interpretation rather than actually why? A quick search doesn't turn up another source which makes the connection.
- In sum,
I think we're good here. Just a matter of figuring out the hook. My order of preference would be the first hook if another source can be found or ALT2 with a wording adjustment per above. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 18:46, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ugh, ALT2 was wrong—you're right. Changed to "first black woman nominee". I kind of agree with you about ALT0 but tried to word it in a very straightforwardly true way in the hook: she definitely does talk about dick on the show (I can cite the show itself for this–specifically the fourth episode, "D**k"). Would the rewording below help? Maybe I need to change what is said in the article as well. I did look but I don't think any other sources mention this. As for the Pleasance being the first performance, I can see the concern but I am very confident in this one. The source cites Hughes saying in a tweet "Tickets for my new show are available NOW" so it is a new routine at the time (it would be quite rare to repeat a routine for the Fringe, I think).
- ALT3: ... that while waiting to film London Hughes: To Catch a D*ck for Netflix, London Hughes talked about the word dick in History of Swear Words?
- — Bilorv (talk) 19:26, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- @Bilorv: Ok. So my preference is for ALT3 at this point, with second choice for ALT2 (although anything you can do to trim that would be good -- it's pushing up against the limit). Two other things: in this context, I think it's clearer to say "the word dick" or "the word 'dick'". I went ahead and made that change, presuming it's ok, but change it again if you're not ok with that. Second, I'm assuming that this hook is covered by WP:NOTCENSORED. I feel like I've seen some cases of "shocking" material changed specifically for the main page, but will defer to the promoting admin to make that call. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 06:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yep, "the word dick" is good with me. I've had a hook go through with a quote "fuck you" which in hindsight was not really integral to the point of the hook, whereas this hook is on a show which contains the word dick throughout and is largely about penises, so I would be surprised if someone complained. — Bilorv (talk) 10:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
good to go for ALT3 (or ALT2 if necessary per above). — Rhododendrites talk \\ 06:31, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
