Template:Did you know nominations/Morton Kamien
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by Allen3 talk 13:54, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Insufficient progress toward resolving outstanding issues
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Morton Kamien[edit]
- ... that late American economist Morton Kamien grew up in the Warsaw Ghetto, escaping before it was razed in 1944?
Created by Bender235 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:45, 23 March 2016 (UTC).
Not long enough. Yet. (Other criteria are broadly met. As new enough. And in scope. And hook is interesting and has a solid cite. And doesn't have any obvious CLOP issues (Earwig's tool ranks at 16%). And nominator not subject to QPQ requirement.) But it's unfortunately just not long enough. DYK criteria expects 1500 characters of body text. Article has 1075 characters. So it's a paragraph too short. If length addressed, would have no issues changing eligibility assessment - as otherwise is a solid candidate. (If extending, would be good to see other ref sources used. As relies a bit on one source.) Guliolopez (talk) 09:54, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
- bender235, please post here when you have completed your work, which I hope will be soon, so the review can resume. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:50, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
OK. Seems good to go now. Is now long enough. CLOP issues are not a concern. Is new enough (if we consider original nom date). No scope issues. QPQ also not an issue/exempt. Still have a minor concern about reliance on one source (both in general and for the hook), but is solid enough considering, within bounds of AGF and stands-up to a quick Google test from other sources. Would be happy to see this progress. Guliolopez (talk) 23:19, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
- I'm afraid that the final paragraph not only has prose issues, but the bulk of it is a direct copy of the source. The source (and article) are also making a conclusion that I don't think the article can make: that Kamien's testimony is a significant reason why the billion-plus verdicts were made. Also, while "to date" may have been true in 2011, when Kamien died and Northwestern posted this, do you know that those numbers are still records? If so, it would need to be sourced. The fourth paragraph is not sourced, and per DYK rules needs to be. Also, it may need revising for clarity: are the two books about both industrial organization and the economic application of optimal control theory, or is one about the first, and the other about the second? If the latter, then a revision is in order. I'd mention the year that he was recruited to Northwestern (and perhaps that Schwartz was as well), since it's relevant and can be sourced. Finally, articles that have stub tags on them should not be approved for DYK. It's easy enough to take care of, but needs to be done once the article is long enough and sourced enough to be Start class rather than Stub class. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:13, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Bender235 has been given two talk-page notifications in the past two weeks, yet has not addressed any of the issues raised here despite considerable activity elsewhere on Wikipedia. Marking nomination for closure. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:35, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
