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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 21:26, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

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No Bra Day[edit]

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  • Suggest holding this DYK nom for October 13. QPQ: Reviewed Cecilia García Arocha on September 22.
  • ALT1:... that some feminists regard No Bra Day, observed yearly on October 13, as a method to advance gender equality, and has drawn comparisons with the Go Topless women's rights movement and Go Topless Day?
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  • ALT2:... that today is No Bra Day on which women are encouraged to go braless in support of breast cancer awareness and gender equality?
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    5x expanded by Btphelps (talk). Self-nominated at 10:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC).

    • Article has been easily expanded enough. The copyvio tool suggests there is too much close paraphrasing from https://www.awarenessdays.com/awareness-days-calendar/national-no-bra-day/, so that could do with a trim or rewriting instead of the straight quotation. The main hook is interesting and sourced, but I'm a little concerned about their suitability for something on the main page - what are National Today and The Newport Buzz like as sources? The names sound a little tabloidish and I'm not familiar with them. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:34, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
      • Thanks for the review and comments. I agree, the names of the two websites don't sound very credible.
        • I'm aware that the copyvio tool reports the quote about the purpose of original day as a potential copyvio. Only it's a sourced quote found on multiple web sites. I previously trimmed some fluff from the quote. I think the quote is useful to show that the original intent of the day was light-hearted, with the idea of breast cancer awareness tacked on. The rest of the article shows that the observation has taken on a life of its own that is more serious.
        • National Today is a web site that aggregates and publishes holidays worldwide. It is a product of prhacker, a San Francisco PR firm. According to their web site, PR Hacker is a winner of a PR Week (a well-regarded trade publication) 2018 award.
        • The Newport Buzz is an online publication serving the Newport, Rhode Island community. According to their web site, they are the "#1 ranked online publication in Newport & in the State of Rhode Island as per the readers of Rhode Island Monthly Magazine."
      • I think that puts these two sources in the credible category. As to suitability for the main page, it does sound like a frivolous event. My first impression of No Bra Day was that men celebrated it as a chance to see pictures of braless women. But what I found surprising was the seriousness it is given by women, including some feminists, in regards to breast cancer awareness and gender equality. No Bra Day is increasingly a reflection of women who choose to go without a bra and who are more willing to report harassment and resist intimidation. I think it is in part an outgrowth of the #metoo movement. — btphelps (talk to me) (what I've done) 20:59, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
    Okay, thanks for explaining the sources. They are not citing particularly extraordinary claims, so I'm happy to accept them. I have trimmed down the quotation a little bit because I still think it's too much information - anyone wanting the full text can always click through on the reference and get it directly from the source.
    Having recently improved an article on Rachael Bland, who died of breast cancer earlier this month, I think the event means well, and women should take the illness seriously. As for men, I have been told by a number of my good women friends things like "Why do you blokes find boobs so fascinating? It's beyond me - have you ever tried to run for a bus with an ill-fitting bra? You'd never salivate over them ever again!" I don't think I'll be able to get the right to walk stark bollock naked through the streets to highlight the issues with testicular cancer, so fair play to them. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:46, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
    • Hi, I came by to promote ALT2, but I don't see an inline cite in the article for the gender equality fact. Yoninah (talk) 22:01, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
    • Thank you, but this connection of No Bra Day with gender equality seems like one person's opinion. Yoninah (talk) 11:34, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
    • OK, thank you. Restoring tick per Ritchie333's review. Yoninah (talk) 21:21, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
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