Template:Did you know nominations/Nour El-Refai

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The result was: promoted by Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 00:28, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Nour El-Refai[edit]


Reviewed:Datone Jones.

Created by BabbaQ (talk). Self nominated at 17:03, 18 November 2013 (UTC),Werldwayd (talk),GoingBatty (talk),Derek R Bullamore (talk) .

  • Just a comment, not a review. I think the article might benefit if a short lede was included; and then a main section about career, in addition to the personal section and filmography that is already there. Just my five cents. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 00:19, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Fixed.--BabbaQ (talk) 00:37, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
  • New and long enough; nicely sourced, spotchecks did not reveal copyvio or close paraphrasing issues. Very fine photo with adequte licence. I am doubtful about the hook; as I worry it unduly focuses on a negative aspect of a BLP. She's a comedian and the flashing was meant for fun, but as it turned out the man was offended, as a result the incident was never sent on TV and did in fact end up being for the incident. An alternative hook might maybe focus on her being named as 2014 Melodifestivalen host. One of the series she has participated it, goes to a disambigation link, so you need to make a specific link instead (might be redlinked). Also, I believe the lead needs working. The lede is meant to be a summary of the article, so it should focus on what she is actually known for; her career highlights. The detailed childhood information could rather be moved down to the personal section, just leaving a brief mentioning of ethnic background and immigration from Lebanon. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 18:38, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Fixed. But to the user that closes this personally I think the first hook is better than a mention of Melodifestivalen which is very national. Nour is not embarrased for her actions and speaks alot about them. Anyway no matter what I am pleased with the article appearing on DYK.--BabbaQ (talk) 19:22, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I understand the flashing incident may not be anything she is ashamed about; may very well be the opposite. However, in your sources for the incident the focus is on prosecution etc. Also, the sources don't really back up the claim that it was a political stunt; it was in a humour programme and there may well be some politial (feminist?) motivation behind it; but it is not clearly laid out in the sources. I have changed the article on this, and proposed yet an alternative hook.
  • Anyway, I will translate a bit of one of the sources, for the administrators to consider:

"TV 4's presenter Nour El-Refai, 19, exposed herself to a stranger man in a park in Stockholm. Nour El-Refai led he humor program "Raj raj" in TV 400 last summer, when the incident was recorded. - The idea was not to show breasts, but that a young girl exposes herself in Humlegarden which is very famous for male flasher, she says to Aftonbladet." "Now Nour El-Refai is prosecuted . She risks a fine or a short prison sentence. But she has no regrets. - No, because I have not done wrong in any way. And I've apologized. However, I find it sad that a person feels offended.!" Her boss comments: - With hindsight, I can only say that the whole situation is very unfortunate. One person was hurt and Nour is in a difficult position, says Tora Heckscher."

  • for ALT1 (Melodifestival), but promoters may consider the two others.
  • Regards, Iselilja (talk) 21:33, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your help.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:28, 24 November 2013 (UTC)