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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 18:26, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

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Nun liebe Seel, nun ist es Zeit

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  • Reviewed: Blechhammer concentration camp
  • Comment: We'll have to wait for the move request because of a comma that doesn't change the meaning. We could drop the 2 authors bit for brevity, but it's kind of cute, and readers might miss an author.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Francis Schonken (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 10:24, 9 January 2020 (UTC).

Full review of nomination needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:32, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
  • For clarity, I object to:
    1. "... about radiance consuming darkness ..." — too cryptic for most readers; and also, too interpretive (only one author's interpretation, who should usually be named in-text, and certainly if such interpretation would appear on main page).
    2. failing to say what "Nun liebe Seel, nun ist es Zeit" is. These are a succession of words, in a language which readers of English Wikipedia are not usually supposed to identify, leave alone what is being said in that language, leave alone being supposed to identify *what it is* even if understanding a random bunch of German words: "..., a German Lutheran hymn, ..." as in my ALT1 proposal would do the trick. Adding only "hymn" as qualifier would not do the trick while hymn has too many meanings: is it a Dutch anthem? A Gregorian chant? etc...
    3. "... Part V of Bach's ''[[Christmas Oratorio]]''" — the proper linking would be "... [[Ehre sei dir, Gott, gesungen, BWV 248 V|Part V of Bach's ''Christmas Oratorio'']]", as in ALT1
So, for these reasons, oppose ALT0 and its derivatives ALT0a, ALT0b and ALT0c: I'd rather prefer no DYK regarding this article (with me not having to put any more energy in this, i.e. to prevent yet another undesirable blip on mainpage). --Francis Schonken (talk) 15:41, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
I fail to understand your objection, Francis. If you are interested in translating a string of German words to the English-speaking community, why not the stanza used in the Christmas Oratorio - better known than the first line of the hymn, and translating to "your radience consumes all darkness". That's not "one author's interpretation", but the most literal translation of "Dein Glanz all Finsternis verzehrt". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:11, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Start review. Zeete (talk) 15:33, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
  • New, long enough (per DYK check, about 2400, but many titles), cited, neutral, Earwig reports Violation Possible, but reported hymn text, looks okay, QPQ done
  • From above, review of ALT1 (ALT0+ struck), hook interesting, cited.
@Francis Schonken: @Gerda Arendt: Should Ehre sei dir, Gott, gesungen, BWV 248 V have a link back to this article? Christmas Oratorio does. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 16:07, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Backlink suggestion handled. --Francis Schonken (talk) 17:52, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
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