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The result was: rejected by ssт✈(discuss) 13:36, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I am not familiar enough with the subject matter to fix this. Withdrawing

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Ona Kantheeswarar Temple, Sathyanatheswarar Temple, Metraleeswar Temple, Anekadhangavadeswarar Temple[edit]

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Created by Ssriram mt (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 08:49, 17 November 2015 (UTC).

  • All four articles are new enough and long enough, and appropriately referenced. Hook is neutral, interesting, short enough (at 213 characters for four articles) and the hook fact is mentioned in the respective articles. However, an immediate inline citation is missing for the hook fact, as far as I can see (and missing in all four articles). Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing (Earwig's Copyvio Detector gives all green ticks). Four QPQs done. Oceanh (talk) 22:36, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
  • When you create a multi-article hook, it is very difficult to achieve one single inline citation to verify the hook in all four articles. The hook content is cited in the article body. sst✈discuss 10:51, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
  • I see your point, but it is the DYK reviewer's task to check that the hook facts have inline citations directly after the facts. For the "Ona Kantheeswarar Temple", the hook claims that (1.) it is a Hindu temple,(2.) the temple is dedicated to Shiva, and (3.) the temple is located in the town of Kanchipuram. I think all these three facts should have inline citations in the article. (Similarly for the three other articles, for the facts about the respective temples). I can not see how any of this is directly cited in the body of the article, please guide me if I'm blind. Also, the current ref 2 seems to not cover the Ona Kantheeswarar Temple, but instead the Sri Kachi Anekadhangavadeswarar temple; this should be corrected. Oceanh (talk) 22:26, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Further concern: Since the four articles appear similar in many ways, I made some cross checkings to investigate the similarities. DupCheck 1 DupCheck 2 DupCheck 3 DupCheck 4 DupCheck 5 DupCheck 6 The tool found several sentences which are reused verbatim across the articles. Do you have any comment on this? Oceanh (talk) 21:40, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
  • As long as each article has at least 1500 characters of new prose, duplication between articles is acceptable. Will provide another hook later. sst✈(discuss) 09:13, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Clarification: the 1500 characters of new prose must be unique to each article, so any duplicated prose only counts toward one of the articles it appears in. (WP:DYKSG#A5 addresses this issue directly.) sst✈, will you be providing this other hook soon? Oceanh, where do the articles stand? The smallest, Anekadhangavadeswarar Temple, is 3498 prose characters and the oldest of the four; the other three were created the following day and range from 4185 to 5215 prose characters. Unless there are over 2685 prose characters in common (DupChecks 1 and 3 appear to have under 2500 and 2200 respectively), the duplication issue should not be germane. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:47, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you for clarification regarding identical text in the articles. The articles are long enough even wihtout this duplicate text. There is a problem with referencing in two of the articles, possibly a minor probem: Ref 2 (with five inline citations) in Ona Kantheeswarar Temple has a wrong link. Ref 2 (with five inline citations) in Sathyanatheswarar Temple has a wrong link. Both these references have links to a site covering another temple, the Anekadhangavadeswarar Temple. Maybe a small problem, but if so it should be easy to fix, so I do not understand why this should take more than four weeks. Still, direct inline citations for the hook fact(s) are missing. It is not necessary to cite all facts in all articles, but each fact should be cited in at least one article. Oceanh (talk) 19:42, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
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