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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:31, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

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Probir Roy[edit]

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Created by Tachs (talk). Self-nominated at 07:45, 9 May 2017 (UTC).

  • I'm very concerned with the assertion that this came to be known as Roy's Sum Rule, because if you search for "Roy's Sum Rule" (with quotes)], its only mention on all of the internet indexed by Google is the article itself. Not one single other use of that phrase, out of trillions of web pages. And without that, the hook seems non-noteworthy. — Kaz (talk) 17:28, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
@Kazvorpal: The source I provided was from Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, one of the most respected research facilities in India. Shanti Swarup Bhatnagar Prize citation also mentions the rule SS Bhatnagar Prize. However, I wouldn't want to continue with the original hook as it may end up in a long-winding discussion. Instead, I would request your comments on ALT1 which you seem to have overlooked. jojo@nthony (talk) 19:30, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
  • No one university claiming something is called X has any real meaning at all. The question is whether even a fraction of the wider world of (English speaking) humanity calls it that. The blurb could have said 'is called "Roy's Rule' by a committee at Tata", I guess. Anyway, the alt text seems fine to me. I'm not entirely clear on how the "alt" section is supposed to work, myself. On my two proposals, I added an alt preemptively, but since then I started thinking maybe it's only for proposed fixes to some objection. — Kaz (talk) 19:50, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
@Kazvorpal: The sum rule reference could be found in four sources cited in the article. Besides Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, the Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (the apex body for scientific research in India), SS Bhatnagar Prize committee and Indian National Science Academy (one of the three major Indian Science academies) have mentioned about the rule. These scientific papers also talk about the rule 1, 2 3. Anyway, let's overlook them and carry on. ALT works as an alternative proposal and it is up to the reviewer to propose which of the hooks he thinks would be more appropriate. Since you stated that ALT1 is ok, you have to mention that in your closing review and put "TICK" mark () so that a DYK volunteer can pass it to the next level. Seems you are new to reviewing. Please use only when the DYK cannot move forward. For further discussions on the hooks, or are normally used. Thanks for your time. jojo@nthony (talk) 06:09, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
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