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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 12:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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Shooting of Greg Gunn

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  • ... that Aaron Cody Smith, who fatally shot Greg Gunn in 2016, was the first Montgomery Police officer to be arrested immediately after an officer-involved shooting? Source: They also described Smith as "the first and only Montgomery Police Officer ever to be arrested and charged immediately after an officer-involved shooting." [1]

Improved to Good Article status by GeneralNotability (talk). Self-nominated at 13:27, 5 August 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment: Didn't do a QPQ, this is my second DYK. I'm aware that this is a place where we need to tread carefully given BLP concerns, but I think the description is appropriately neutral ("shot" rather than, say, "killed" or "murdered") and his own defense team is the source of this hook. GeneralNotability (talk) 13:29, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment: I've done some crime articles and I think this is fine. He's been convicted so it can be treated as fact, even if he is appealing. I strengthened it to "fatally shot", linked the police force, and cut a little redundancy to tighten it up. Full review forthcoming. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:41, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Query: Article nominated the day promoted to GA, long enough, neutral (though I'd have liked to see the GA be a bit broader, including the autopsy results that indicated heroin in the victim's system[1]), well cited, no copyvio detected. Confirmed nominator's second DYK, QPQ waived. Hook is formatted, of good length. However, the source for "immediately after" is Smith's defense attorneys who were trying to establish prejudice against their client in a motion to change the trial venue, while the fact is that the arrest came on March 2, a week after the incident. I feel that it isn't neutral as it's trying to push an agenda, and to say one week is immediate is a bit of a stretch. I feel that needs a rephrase, or a new hook. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:58, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Reidgreg, I'll drop that hook, I am unable to find a neutral source with a similar statement (or even something like "(N)th Montgomery PD officer to be arrested following an officer-involved shooting." How do you feel about this:
  • ALT1 ... that eight judges recused themselves from the trial for the shooting of Greg Gunn? source: Eight judges recused themselves from the trial. [2]
  • Needs a little more wordsmithing, I'll do that tonight or tomorrow, but I think the trial going through a total of nine judges is pretty interesting. GeneralNotability (talk) 22:52, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Looks good, hook fact cited in article. Will wait for you to finalize. – Reidgreg (talk) 12:24, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Reidgreg, sorry about the delay. Let's just go with ALT1 as written - I feel like the wording is a little awkward but I can't think of a better way to phrase it. GeneralNotability (talk) 02:47, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Slight rephrase (by Reidgreg):
Approve ALT1, ALT1a: Hooks of good length, formatted, interesting and cited in article, All else as above. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:35, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
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