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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 18:36, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Theater Bremen[edit]

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... that Theater Bremen, a state theatre in Bremen, runs Moks, a division for young people? Source: several

Reviewed: ~~to come~~ William Wright Abbot

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:56, 20 September 2018 (UTC).

@Gerda Arendt: A full review is to follow, but I'm afraid I have to reject this hook. It's boring (theatres having divisions for youths is not uncommon or quirky), and "Moks" is too obscure of a term to appeal to a broad audience. A new hook is needed here. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 05:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I won't argue, working on opera house of the year award in 2007. Was travelling, have a cold, and off to rehearsal. Just letting you know that I didn't forget you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:06, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Theater Bremen, the state theatre of Bremen for opera, plays, dance and young people, was selected as opera house of the year in 2007?

ALT2: ... that the style of Theater Bremen was internationally known as Bremer Stil from 1962, created by stage directors such as Peter Stein, Peter Zadek and Rainer Werner Fassbinder? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:31, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

I don't like ALT2 because of its inaccessibility to those unfamiliar with opera music. ALT1 possibly works, but the body that gave it the opera house of the year award is German and I'm not sure if non-German opera houses are considered for the prize. I'm willing to go with ALT1 but it might need some work. Also, not really sure if "opera, plays, dance, and young people" is necessary here, simply "that Theater Bremen, the state threatre of Bremen, was..." or even simply "that Theater Bremen was selected..." could be a better option. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 01:17, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

ALT2 opera??? - Play, has nothing to do with opera, and the directors became internationally known, - ashort at their articles should tell. ALT2 is more specific for the theatre, as many houses were named opera house of the year, including not-German ones (we have a link to see that). I thought we'd need to explain that Theater Bremen is not equal to an opera house, but that opera is only one of four Sparten - don't know a proper English word. In the 20th century, play was the focus, in the 21st, opera. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

As this has been stuck for several weeks, I think we can go with ALT1. However, the "opera house of the year" award needs to be attributed: how about saying something like "Germany's opera house of the year" or "opera house of the year by the German magazine Opernwelt"? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 10:01, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

You can do it that way (2nd version) if you think it's necessary. I think the link is enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:11, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Okay. I don't think there are any more problems, so here's the full review: new enough, long enough, adequately sourced, ALT1 interesting and cited inline, German sources accepted AGF, this is good to go. Up to promoter whether or not to include the "opera house of the year in 2007 by the German magazine Opernwelt?" clause. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:17, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

ALT1b: ... that Theater Bremen, the state theatre of Bremen for opera, plays, dance and young people, was selected as opera house of the year in 2007 by the German magazine Opernwelt?

No, sorry. The magazine doesn't select, but run's a critics's poll or however you'd call that. Also, you wouldn't say So-and-so was selected for the Nobel Prize by the Nobel prize committee. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 15 October 2018 (UTC)