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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:56, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Third Siege of Gibraltar[edit]

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  • ... that by the end of the Third Siege of Gibraltar in 1333, the inhabitants of Gibraltar were reduced to eating their shoes because the town's governor had stolen the money meant to pay for food?

Created/expanded by Prioryman (talk). Self nom at 20:42, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Per the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/GibraltarPediA Options, Gibraltar-related articles are temporarily being reviewed by two individuals. In addition to the regular DYK criteria, at least one reviewer should also indicate whether they perceive any conflict of interest or promotional concerns about the article under review. IP addresses are not allowed to do the reviews.
  • Review 1:
  • Date, length, hook, etc. are fine. I'm concerned about the sourcing, however: are Osprey Publishing or Robert Hale & Company well-known publishers? I need more information to be convinced that these books are reliable sources. Nyttend (talk) 20:14, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm a bit surprised at this query. They're both long-established, well-known British publishers. Osprey Publishing is a very well-known British publisher of military history books. I've used their books many times before in other articles, including FAs (see e.g. La Coupole) and in my experience it's rare for a British bookshop to lack Osprey books in its military history section. Additionally, the co-author of this particular book is the Director of the Gibraltar Museum and a multiply published author of other books on Gibraltar, so there's high-grade local expertise as well. Robert Hale has been around since 1936 and is a well-known London publisher; this particular book is widely quoted by other writers and is highly regarded (see e.g. [1] or [2]). Prioryman (talk) 20:32, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the comments. I looked around a little online before leaving my comment, but I found nothing more than the Osprey homepage that you linked. I've simply never heard of them before, so I wasn't comfortable approving an article that was based almost entirely on their publications. No more objections, based on what you said. Nyttend (talk) 20:37, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Review 2:
  • Date, length, occurrence of, and reference for, the hook fact okay, no promotional issues. Both references are offline, so I have to AGF on both hook support and absence of plagiarism. --Pgallert (talk) 15:21, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
  •  Comment: In fact, the hook was not properly referenced, as the most of hook's paragraph is said to come from page 59 in Hills work. It's actually in page 58. I've fixed it. --Ecemaml (talk) 08:14, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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