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It seems to me that the recent change to this template has left it with awkward wording that misattributes the source, to no good purpose. The new default wording is "This article incorporates public domain material from websites or documents of the Federal Standard 1037C.", which arises because "Federal Standard 1037C" is being inserted in a field intended to hold the name of the agency that issued the document, not the name of the document itself. I presume this choice was made to allow easy linking to particular definitions using the article and url fields. I think there are probably better ways to handle this. I'll try to rework it. I'm going to remove the author and accessdate fields. The former is unnecessary, since FS1037C has no attributed authors. The latter is questionable, since this is a published document, that happens to also be available online. A proper citation would give the revision date of the standard that was used, not the date the website was accessed.--Srleffler (talk) 03:47, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The link in this template is dead.[edit]

https://www.its.bldrdoc.gov/fs-1037/fs-1037c.htm gets a 404 error.

The page at the NTIA for Federal Standard 1037c says:

ITS was tasked to update the standard to revision C and published Federal Standard 1037C in 1996.

and

Federal Standard 1037C was superseded in 2001 by American National Standard T1.523-2001, Telecom Glossary 2000, published by ATIS. The current version of the ATIS Telecom Glossary is available at http://www.atis.org/glossary/.

The ATIS Telecom Glossary is available online, without a paywall or a registration requirement. However, a page using this template probably copied stuff from Federal Standard 1037C, not American National Standard T1.523, so this should probably not point to the ATIS Telecom Glossary.

Should this point to a Web archive of Federal Standard 1037C? Presumably any 1996-or-later archive would work; most pages copying from it probably copied from that version. (Newer archives of that page say

Note: The updated version of this standard (Telecom Glossary 2000) is completed. Click here for more information.

with "here" linking to https://www.its.bldrdoc.gov/projects/telecomglossary2000, which is another now-dead link. From looking at that link in the Wayback Machine, "Telecom Glossary 2000" is, in fact, American National Standard T1.523-2001, Telecom Glossary 2000, so it's not Federal Standard 1037C.) Guy Harris (talk) 06:02, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, according to the Web archive, that page disappeared some time between 2022-04-24 and 2022-05-23. Guy Harris (talk) 06:04, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I replaced the dead link with a link to an archive.--Srleffler (talk) 19:23, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Use of ATIS glossary vs. archived US gov source[edit]

Am I correct in supposing that content sourced to the ATIS glossary (mentioned in the thread above) is NOT considered in the public domain, as there is a copyright notice on the search results page. Thanks for your thoughts. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:14, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No need to suppose. They are crystal clear: "Copyright © Alliance for Telecommunications Industry Solutions, 2011 in connection with all copyrightable subject matter created by and in ATIS and contained herein or comprised hereof. All Rights Reserved. No part of this publication may be reproduced in any form, in an electronic retrieval system or otherwise, without the prior written permission of the publisher." --Srleffler (talk) 02:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]