Template talk:Infobox basketball biography

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Birth_place — additional usage instructions[edit]

Would there be any objection if I added any of the following text (taken from {{Infobox person/doc}}) below the existing one line already in the Usage section?

  • Use the name of the birthplace at the time of birth, e.g.: Saigon (prior to 1976) or Ho Chi Minh City (post-1976).
  • Do not use a flag template, coat of arms, or other icon.
  • Omit unnecessary or redundant details. For example, it is not necessary to state: New York City, New York, United States when New York City, U.S. conveys essentially the same information more concisely.
  • Countries should generally not be linked.
  • For subsequent places (of death, etc.) it is not necessary to repeat jurisdictional details or links for the same place name.

Thank you! — WILDSTARTALK 15:10, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Seems too prescriptive to add en masse. They should only be added on an as-needed basis. For my own curiosity, is there a previous discussion that establishes consensus for those items that are not linked to a guideline? —Bagumba (talk) 17:23, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds reasonable. Added only the one. — WILDSTARTALK 16:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have reverted your change, because this does not look like consensus of any sort. Sports infoboxes and tables usually list "City, State/Province" for teams or BLPs related to Canada and the United States. – sbaio 16:20, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose bullet 3. This infobox uses City, State/Province consistently which mirrors pretty much any roster list or sport bio you see in North America. The rest are fine. Rikster2 (talk) 16:35, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template Needs To Be Cleaned Up[edit]

Template should include all parameters. You shouldn't need to add undocumented parameters and the Name of the player should be included within the borders like Template:Infobox NFL biography uses. Batgirl-Awsomeness (talk) 22:07, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please be more specific about the changes you recommend? Also, when I compare LeBron James and Patrick Mahomes both have the player name “outside” the border. Rikster2 (talk) 23:33, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I didn't realize that, sorry. Specifically when you add the infobox basketball biography, a good amount of parameters are not automatically generated. You have to add them as undocumented parameters. According to the template page it should have the following categories:
| embed           =
| name            =
| image           =
| image_size      =
| alt             =
| caption         =
| team            =
| number          =
| position        =
| league          =
| conference      =
| birth_date      =
| birth_place     =
| death_date      =
| death_place     =
| nationality     =
| height_ft       =
| height_in       =
| height_cm       =
| height_order    =
| height_footnote =
| weight_lb       =
| weight_kg       =
| weight_order    =
| weight_footnote =
| high_school     =
| college         =
| draft_year      =
| draft_round     =
| draft_pick      =
| draft_team      =
| draft_league    =
| career_start    =
| career_end      =
| career_position =
| career_number   =
| coach_start     =
| coach_end       =
| referee_start   =
| referee_end     =
| years1          =
| team1           =
| years2          =
| team2           =
| years3          =
| team3           =
| years4          =
| team4           =
| years5          =
| team5           =
| years6          =
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| years7          =
| team7           =
| years8          =
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| team10          =
| years11         =
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| years12         =
| team12          =
| years13         =
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| years14         =
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| years15         =
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| years22         =
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| years23         =
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| years24         =
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| years26         =
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| years27         =
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| years28         =
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| years29         =
| team29          =
| years30         =
| team30          =
| years31         =
| team31          =
| years32         =
| team32          =
| years33         =
| team33          =
| years34         =
| team34          =
| years35         =
| team35          =
| years36         =
| team36          =
| years37         =
| team37          =
| years38         =
| team38          =
| years39         =
| team39          =
| years40         =
| team40          =
| cyears1         =
| cteam1          =
| cyears2         =
| cteam2          =
| cyears3         =
| cteam3          =
| cyears4         =
| cteam4          =
| cyears5         =
| cteam5          =
| cyears6         =
| cteam6          =
| cyears7         =
| cteam7          =
| cyears8         =
| cteam8          =
| cyears9         =
| cteam9          =
| cyears10        =
| cteam10         =
| cyears11        =
| cteam11         =
| cyears12        =
| cteam12         =
| cyears13        =
| cteam13         =
| cyears14        =
| cteam14         =
| cyears15        =
| cteam15         =
| cyears16        =
| cteam16         =
| cyears17        =
| cteam17         =
| cyears18        =
| cteam18         =
| cyears19        =
| cteam19         =
| cyears20        =
| cteam20         =
| highlights      =
| stat1label      =
| stat1value      =
| stat2label      =
| stat2value      =
| stat3label      =
| stat3value      =
| stats_league    =
| bbr             =
| bbr_wnba        =
| nbanew          =
| wnba_profile    =
| cstats_league1  =
| cwin1           =
| closs1          =
| cstats_league2  =
| cwin2           =
| closs2          =
| cstats_league3  =
| cwin3           =
| closs3          =
| cstats_league4  =
| cwin4           =
| closs4          =
| cstats_league5  =
| cwin5           =
| closs5          =
| HOF             =
| HOF_player      =
| HOF_coach       =
| womensHOF       =
| FIBA_HOF_player =
| CBBASKHOF_year  =
| medal_templates =
However, most of these parameters are not autogenerated when inserting the template in the visual editor. Batgirl-Awsomeness (talk) 00:44, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For the name thing, I was thinking about the Template:Infobox baseball biography , I just mixed up the sport. Batgirl-Awsomeness (talk) 00:47, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't use visual editor. Can you provide an example of a few fields that are not autogenerated? —Bagumba (talk) 04:23, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. I'll just list most of them to make things easier.
| embed           =
| weight_footnote =
| referee_start   =
| referee_end     =
| years1          =
| team1           =
| years2          =
| team2           =
| years3          =
| team3           =
| years4          =
| team4           =
| years5          =
| team5           =
| years6          =
| team6           =
| years7          =
| team7           =
| years8          =
| team8           =
| years9          =
| team9           =
| years10         =
| team10          =
| years11         =
| team11          =
| years12         =
| team12          =
| years13         =
| team13          =
| years14         =
| team14          =
| years15         =
| team15          =
| years16         =
| team16          =
| years17         =
| team17          =
| years18         =
| team18          =
| years19         =
| team19          =
| years20         =
| team20          =
| years21         =
| team21          =
| years22         =
| team22          =
| years23         =
| team23          =
| years24         =
| team24          =
| years25         =
| team25          =
| years26         =
| team26          =
| years27         =
| team27          =
| years28         =
| team28          =
| years29         =
| team29          =
| years30         =
| team30          =
| years31         =
| team31          =
| years32         =
| team32          =
| years33         =
| team33          =
| years34         =
| team34          =
| years35         =
| team35          =
| years36         =
| team36          =
| years37         =
| team37          =
| years38         =
| team38          =
| years39         =
| team39          =
| years40         =
| team40          =
| cyears1         =
| cteam1          =
| cyears2         =
| cteam2          =
| cyears3         =
| cteam3          =
| cyears4         =
| cteam4          =
| cyears5         =
| cteam5          =
| cyears6         =
| cteam6          =
| cyears7         =
| cteam7          =
| cyears8         =
| cteam8          =
| cyears9         =
| cteam9          =
| cyears10        =
| cteam10         =
| cyears11        =
| cteam11         =
| cyears12        =
| cteam12         =
| cyears13        =
| cteam13         =
| cyears14        =
| cteam14         =
| cyears15        =
| cteam15         =
| cyears16        =
| cteam16         =
| cyears17        =
| cteam17         =
| cyears18        =
| cteam18         =
| cyears19        =
| cteam19         =
| cyears20        =
| cteam20         =
| stat1label      =
| stat1value      =
| stat2label      =
| stat2value      =
| stat3label      =
| stat3value      =
| stats_league    =
| cstats_league1  =
| cwin1           =
| closs1          =
| cstats_league2  =
| cwin2           =
| closs2          =
| cstats_league3  =
| cwin3           =
| closs3          =
| cstats_league4  =
| cwin4           =
| closs4          =
| cstats_league5  =
| cwin5           =
| closs5          =
| HOF_player      =
| HOF_coach       =
Batgirl-Awsomeness (talk) 04:48, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 30 May 2023[edit]

In two places the template uses [[Undrafted sportsperson|Undrafted]], creating a line such as "NBA draft 2006 NBA draft / Undrafted", which would be more stylistically correct as "NBA draft 2006 NBA draft / undrafted" without the capitalization.

So, in both places, change [[Undrafted sportsperson|Undrafted]] to [[Undrafted sportsperson|undrafted]]. Dicklyon (talk) 17:46, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 18:40, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Maybe someone will want to discuss. Other cases worth discussing look like: "1958 / Pick: Territorial" and "1960 / Round: 5 / Pick: 39th overall". It's not clear why so many things are capitalized. Dicklyon (talk) 21:45, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This really isn't a recommended slash use per MOS:SLASH either, and it's not like it's a common domain format like a baseball slash line. Perhaps we move to something like "1958: territorial pick", "1960: 5th round, 39th overall pick".—Bagumba (talk) 10:33, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Notificiation of this discussion was left at WT:BASKETBALL and WT:NBA.—Bagumba (talk) 10:38, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I second Bagumba's suggestion. So far nobody else seems to care. Someone who is good at templates can give it a try, or compose an edit request. Dicklyon (talk) 04:50, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Paine Ellsworth and Bagumba: one of you want to move this forward? Dicklyon (talk) 04:51, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Slashes removed. —Bagumba (talk) 07:09, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Draft[edit]

Is there a reason why this is formatted differently? American football and ice hockey infoboxes don't format the draft this way. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:30, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Native name[edit]

Suggesting to include | native_name | native_name_lang options from the mother template, as currently, <br> is used with the name parameter when a person is from a non-Latin using country. Respublik (talk) 18:58, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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