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This template was listed on templates for deletion, but there was no consensus to delete. See the log. (archive entry) Courtland 02:50, 3 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested uses[edit]

tagging of redirects from inverted to natural language terms, such as Aaron, Henry Louis → Hank Aaron or Chemistry, inorganic → Inorganic chemistry.
tagging of redirects from disambiguation pages to lists of terms, such as Baggio, where the surname "Baggio" is the only commonality among disambiguated items, and List of people by name provides a comprehensive listing, obviating the need to repeat data in two places

(Courtland 22:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC))[reply]

Printworthiness?[edit]

Paine Ellsworth, I strongly disagree that these redirects are inherently unprintworthy. If we actually made a print Wikipedia, we'd have to make a decision whether personal names would be indexed by first name, last name, or both. I think there's a very strong chance last name would be used, as is typical in indexes. Can we agree to make this Rcat agnostic on printworthiness, if not outright printworthy? See also Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 October 8#Duncan, Tim (and many, many, many more), where I remark that I've seen librarians praise these redirects on Wikipedia. (And how often do you see anyone outside the encyclopedia praising redirects?) --BDD (talk) 16:07, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, BDD – these redirects are now sorted to the printworthy cat. Painius 05:54, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Ellsworth, Paine! --BDD (talk) 14:17, 12 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pleasure! Paine

Doesn't {{Defaultsort}} already address this? Would that potentially create double entries in a printed index? —Ringbang (talk) 20:19, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Ringbang: there would be double entries for any printworthy redirect, for example, Mandarin Chinese would be indexed under the Ms and Chinese, Mandarin would be indexed under the Cs. The DEFAULTSORT is not used to index an article in printed versions, because readers might just as readily look for the unsorted article name as the sorted one. Paine Ellsworth ^put'r there 08:01, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 26 August 2018[edit]

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Please change: |from=the target's sort name,
to: |from=the target's sort name;
This punctuation change would rectify a comma splice. Thank you. – Wdchk (talk) 17:25, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Done — xaosflux ^Talk 20:13, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]