User:HappyWithWhatYouHaveToBeHappyWith/sandbox

This is a personal list of decommunized toponyms in Ukraine that are still located at their old titles. This should be all of them, but it's possible I'm missing some. There may also be entries added to the list as redlinks get new pages under their old names.

List[edit]

Luhansk Oblast[edit]

Biriukove > Krynychne, Dovzhansk Raion, Luhansk Oblast
Kalininskyi > Kundriuche
Krasnodon > Sorokyne
- Krasnodon Raion > Sorokyne Raion
Komsomolskyi > Dubove, Luhansk Oblast
Kirovsk, Luhansk Oblast > Holubivka
Leninske > Valianivske
Petrovske > Petrovo-Krasnosillia
Proletarskyi > Kartushyne
Sverdlovsk, Ukraine > Dovzhansk
- Merge Dovzhansk Raion into Sverdlovsk Raion (merge proposal ongoing)
- Then move Sverdlovsk Raion > Dovzhansk Raion (If merge doesn't conclude quickly, move it to Dovzhansk Raion (1938–2020), like how the Ukrainian wiki does it)
Vakhrusheve > Bokovo-Khrustalne
Volodarsk, Ukraine > Vedmezhe

Crimea[edit]

Kirovske, Crimea > Isliam-Terek (or İslâm Terek)
- Kirovske Raion > Isliam-Terek Raion (or İslâm Terek Raion? not sure of the legal situation)
Komsomolske, Crimea > Bakachyk-Kyiat
Kuibysheve, Crimea > Albat
Kalinine, Krasnohvardiiske Raion > Umyut
Krasnohvardiiske > Kurman (or Qurman)
- Krasnohvardiiske Raion > Kurman Raion (or Qurman Raion)
Krasnoperekopsk > Yany Kapu
- Krasnoperekopsk Raion > Yany Kapu Raion
Lenine, Crimea > Yedi Quyu
- Lenine Raion > Yedy Kuiu Raion (or Yedi Quyu Raion)
Oktiabrske > Biiuk-Onlar
Ordzhonikidze, Crimea > Kayhador
Sovietskyi > Ichki
- Sovietskyi Raion > Ichki Raion
Kuibysheve, Yalta > Isar, Yalta (or Isar, Crimea)
Sovietske > Dolossy

Future RMs[edit]

Collecting data and writing to use in future RMs.

No common name[edit]

Biriukove/Krynychne[edit]

Using Google Web Search, Biriukove has zero results from actual human-written sources - there are only machine-generated statistics and weather websites that scrape their data from old geographic databases and international organizations making lists of renamed settlements where they include the old name in the chart.

I highly doubt it would be possible to find an established WP:COMMONNAME for this settlement or measure the usage of the new name, since there are two other settlements in Luhansk Oblast alone named Krynychne, let alone the many in the rest of Ukraine.

Leninske/Valianivske[edit]

When looking at total Google Web results, Leninske has 42-115 vs Valianivske with 33-321. These are very low numbers, and most of the sources are auto-generated junk or lists of decommunized settlements. Both names have exactly zero mentions in Google News or Google Books. It seems to me like there is no WP:COMMONNAME for Leninske/Valianivske. It's an extremely obscure settlement with almost zero coverage outside of international organizations making lists of places renamed in 2016 in Ukraine. There are essentially zero articles that talk about it beyond WP:PASSING mentions. In the lack of a common name, we should use the official name given to it by the government that is internationally recognized as the legitimate government of the settlement. This would be WP:CONSISTENT with almost all other settlements in Ukraine that were renamed in 2016, would follow precedents with past moves like Piatypillia and Lypske, is in line with guidelines at WP:UAPLACE, and helps WP:NATURALly distinguish it from other settlements of similar prominence and population also formerly named Leninske (see Leninske (disambiguation)).

Others[edit]

Kirovske/Isliam-Terek[edit]

Isliam-Terek would WP:NATURALly disambiguate from other settlements named Kirovske.

Krasnodon/Sorokyne[edit]

Web: Krasnodon (7830), Sorokyne (430,000)

News: Krasnodon (145), Sorokyne (166)

If we move Krasnodon to Sorokyne, we should also move the raion, per WP:CONSISTENCY.

Sverdlovsk/Dovzhansk[edit]

I have been almost completely unable to find sources from after 2016 mentioning this settlement by either name. The name "Sverdlovsk" is completely eclipsed in popularity by Sverdlovsk Oblast in Russia. Even when I try to filter out every possible permutation of the oblast's name, the oblast is still the only thing I can get results about.[1] There are some sources from before 2016 that call it Sverdlovsk, namely the Internet Encyclopedia of Ukraine [2], but even then, there is barely any mention of this very obscure city.[3]

"Dovzhansk" is also extremely rare, but does have some mentions in modern sources. The Institute for the Study of War consistently calls it Dovzhansk, for instance,[4] [5] and Ukrainian officials call it this in official statements.[6] There are some other reasons why Dovzhansk is preferable in the apparent absence of a WP:COMMONNAME: Dovzhansk as a title WP:NATURALly disambiguates the city from Sverdlovsk Oblast as well as Yekaterinburg, a far more well-known city historically known by the name. It is WP:CONSISTENT with the vast majority of other renamed settlements in Ukraine, and it is the legal official name given to it by the government that is internationally recognized as having sovereignty over it.

If we move the city, we should also move the raion for consistency, since that administrative unit is even more obscure + we have plenty of articles with titles referencing it as Dovzhansk Raion.

Volodarsk/Vedmezhe[edit]

WP:NATURALly disambiguates from the other Volodarsks.

Redlinks[edit]

(laughably unfinished list - wanted to copy these over from List of Ukrainian toponyms that were changed as part of decommunization in 2016 but lost interest)