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Proposed moves

Thanks a lot my friend. Please do the same if you can on these as I have no time, and don't forget to cast your vote. [1]. [2], [3]. Time we got them moved I think. Let's keep it neutral (talk) 11:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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Please submit an AfD and FAIL. Also don't template the regulars, we know the rules and this is why you will lose. And if you're to tag something for Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, you MUST discuss it on the talk page which you FAILED to do. Regards IJA (talk) 22:24, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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Welcome to WikiProject Yugoslavia

G'day, welcome to WikiProject Yugoslavia! We hope you'll stay, there's plenty to do! Feel free to contact other members of the WikiProject if you have any questions. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 03:29, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Peacemaker67 mate, I've worked with you several times before and I've done loads of editing on Yugo, I just didn't realise there was a project. I thought I'd best join as I was pretty much a de facto member anyway. Regards IJA (talk) 09:49, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

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Manchester meetup this afternoon

Hi IJA,

Just noticed that you asked for a reminder about meta:Meetup/Manchester/25. It is this afternoon at 1 pm. See you there.

Yaris678 (talk) 07:43, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

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October 2014

Information icon Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. In the future, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, reduces edit conflicts, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Hi, good work on football articles. Could you please use the Preview button rather than save each edit you make in future. Thanks :) JMHamo (talk) 14:21, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Why? IJA (talk) 14:22, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Because that is what experienced editors (like yourself) usually do... It's easier to diff your changes on articles too... JMHamo (talk) 14:24, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
and as the template says... and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. JMHamo (talk) 14:25, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry but I'm on a shared network and internet pages regularly time out. I do often use the preview button to make sure my edits look correct once published. Anyway because I'm on a shard network where the pages regularly times out, I don't want my edits going to waste therefore I'm saving them whilst I can. Sorry for any problems which may have occurred. Regards IJA (talk) 14:28, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
OK, that is fair enough. I understand what you mean. Keep up the good work!! JMHamo (talk) 14:32, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
Cheers mate. It is very frustrating when you're trying to make a big edit on the article and the pages just times out. All your hard work has gone. When I've been creating articles recently, I've been doing it on a Microsoft Work document and copying and pasting them into my sandbox to make sure they're correct before publishing. Hopefully this crappy internet I'm temporarily on gets sorted out soon! Regards IJA (talk) 14:35, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

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Matthew Urwin

He didn't actually play in that game, it was a mistake by the BBC which was picked up by other sources. Therefore he is actually non-notable. Am I OK deleting it per WP:G7? GiantSnowman 17:07, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: Hmmmm. Soccerbase says he got an appearance [4] as did Bradford City who says he played 30 mins and 2 seconds [5]. What do we do from here? IJA (talk) 17:12, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
@GiantSnowman: This confirms he didn't feature. You can delete it as he clearly isn't notable at this stage. I thought it was a weird that a goalkeeper came on for an outfield player. It is just annoying that I've spent time creating that article. IJA (talk) 17:31, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, that's what first got alarm bells ringing for me when I saw the game result, and that's why I didn't create the article back then (I'm a Bradford City fan so monitor club-related articles closely). I can delete - if and when he makes an appearance it can be restored very quickly and simply. Or alternatively I can move it into User:IJA/Matthew Urwin so you can continue to work on it? Let me know either way. GiantSnowman 17:50, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
@GiantSnowman: Please can you move it to User:IJA/Matthew Urwin? IJA (talk) 18:03, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
 Done GiantSnowman 18:32, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Also I have loads of sub pages I want to delete, what is the best way of doing this? IJA (talk) 18:04, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Tag each page you want deleted with {{db-author}} or provide a list here and I can delete them. GiantSnowman 18:32, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

R v Evans and McDonald

"It is important to include that her new identity has been revealed too" – then please find a source that says so without attributing it to the Daily Star or another worthless source. – Smyth\talk 14:45, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

@Smyth: - The Yorkshire Post and The Independent. IJA (talk) 14:55, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. – Smyth\talk 13:57, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

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Just wanted to ask about your decision to delete Noah Pawlowski, it seems that there is some confusion as he isn't being listed as a professional athlete, rather as an Amateur Sports Person who has won a national award and who has received non trivial news coverage. This qualifies the entry as notable based on WP:NCOLLATH. Does this make sense? --YouCallThisClean? (talk) 08:02, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Meetup!

Aye oop our kid! Is it time we organised a wikimeet soon? Can always do something round our way too - I'm heading to Keighley FabLab on Saturday as well if you fancy it? Leela0808 (talk) 12:09, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

@Leela0808: Hia, long time now see. I was thinking of a meet-up just recently actually. First weekend of December would be ideal for me, either 6th or 7th. Unfortunately I no longer liver in Keighley, I live in Huddersfield now. Have you got Bazonka on facebook? If so I'll get him to send me your facebook details and we can organise a wikimeet in Leeds. Also you'll have to do all the Wikimedia stuff as I have no idea how to do anything on there haha. Regards IJA (talk) 13:58, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

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Cut-and-paste move on Kravica massacre

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@Psychonaut: Thanks for your message but you do realise that happened OVER FIVE YEARS AGO??? Also don't template the regulars, it is patronising. Regards IJA (talk) 10:49, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
Hello, IJA. Yes, I realized the copying happened five years ago. Sorry about the template, but it says pretty much everything I would have written even in a completely personalized message. Could you please have a look for and fix any other copy-paste moves you may have done in the past? It's important that the authors of articles be properly attributed, regardless of how long ago you may have copied their material. This is particularly important for Balkans-related topics, which for some reason tend to attract a greater than usual number of copyright violations. (I discovered your copy-paste move only because I was in the process of sorting through a massive Contributor Copyright Investigation involving hundreds of pages.) It's important that we preserve editing histories so that copyvios can be quickly identified and fixed when material is shifted between pages. —Psychonaut (talk) 10:58, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
@Psychonaut: - Cheers for getting back to me, as far as I'm aware that is the only one as I normally do the proper WP:RM procedure. However this one was something to do with two events on the same article and they needed splitting, I went the wrong way about doing it back then. Regards IJA (talk) 11:10, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

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Noah Pawlowski

Just wanted to ask about your decision to delete Noah Pawlowski, it seems that there is some confusion as he isn't being listed as a professional athlete, rather as an Amateur Sports Person who has won a national award and who has received non trivial news coverage. This qualifies the entry as notable based on WP:NCOLLATH. Does this make sense? --YouCallThisClean? (talk) 08:04, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Meet-up clash

Hi IJA

You may be interested in the thread I started at meta:Talk:Meetup/Manchester/26.

Yaris678 (talk) 17:54, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Revert

Hi, just wondering if you thought about your reversion of my edit. Mother Teresa was born in Skopje. Her family appears to originate from Kosovo. She lived in and became famous for her work in India. Other than holding Albanian citizenship in the latter years of her life, I'm missing the strong ties she held to the Republic of Albania that warrant including an image of her in the religion section. I hope you'll be able to explain it to me. Albert Einstein held US citizenship towards the end of his life, yet his image is missing from the US article. Having her image there sends the message that she was Albania's most significant religious figure, but that is certainly not true since she was mostly on the other side of the globe.

Just browsing around the religion sections of some country articles, I noticed none of the them include images of individuals but, rather, of places. --Local hero talk 21:28, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

@Local hero: - I'm not questioning her birth place at all. The US is a lot bigger than Albania and has a lot more famous notable people than Albania. Her strong ties are citizenship and ethnicity. 23:09, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
Albania is an article about a country. For the ethnic group, there is Albanians. There is quite a difference between the two, especially since many ethnic Albanians originate from places outside that nation. Mother Teresa is one of those people.
The other reason you give is her citizenship. She appears to have held citizenship in eight different nations during her life. Maybe we should include her photo on all of those articles. Like I stated above, it comes down to the fact that she spent her life in India. She may have come from Macedonia, but it is India where she became notable.
I also repeat, it does not seem like common practice to include a photo of an individual in the religion section of a country article. --Local hero talk 05:07, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
Please also note that there appears to be no citation given in Mother Teresa's article that states she ever held Albanian citizenship. --Local hero talk 05:11, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

What is Macedonia @Local hero:  ? And what is your country's relation to the ethnic albanians there ? Second her family originates from kosova !!! Third , let us hear what mother Teresa has to say on her own : By blood and origin i am an Albanian , My citizenship is Indian, i am a Catholic nun . As to my calling i belong to all the world , as to my heart i belong entirely to the heart of Jesus .http://books.google.se/books?id=LvSsqD2oNPAC&pg=PA99&dq=Mother+Teresa+Albanian+citizen&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-IJoVKG3LaTjywO144Ig&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Mother%20Teresa%20Albanian%20citizen&f=false .

And yes she has kept citizenship in 8 different nations ( including the Albanian one ) but Macedonian is not one of them .....

Multitude of sources showing her homeland as Albania . Mother Teresa's Albanian Homeland granted her the golden honor of the nation in 1994 Gjirokastra15 (talk) 11:13, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

I could probably get more accomplished talking to a wall than continuing this discussion here. I've made points I'm sure I won't be addressed. It just seems like such a reach to include an image of someone whose notability has so little to do with Albania on that article; it sends a message that Albania has had no significant religious figures other than someone who spent her life in India and happened to be ethnically Albanian.
Gjirokastra, it was very big of you to change 'fyrom' to 'Macedonian' in your comment...
IJA, I know you're too cool to chime back in here but I'm really starting to question how much attention you pay when editing. Did you not realize your latest edit on Albania reinstated a couple spelling errors ([6])? C'mon, man. --Local hero talk 18:07, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
@Local hero:It is positive that you reached the conclusion ( on your own ) that your ¨points¨ were equal to someone talking to the wall . However if you meditate a bit harder you will see that even so , all of them were answered . The rest of the blah blah is a clear wp:idontlikeit . Btw, her notability has so much to with Albania as per citizenship , origin , family history and as per her own words of course ... ! So instead of non standing excuses of non notability or lack of religious figures from Albania , why don't you just assume the obvious ? Which is that Mother Teresa is one of the most (if not the most ) known religious figures globally of the past century , and she is Albanian ... i mean it gets so ridiculous as ridiculous it would be a discussion of why an orange is in fact an orange ...Gjirokastra15 (talk) 21:20, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of The Kosovo Times

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Manchester meetup November 2014

Hi IJA.

Just thought you might like to know that the meetup start time has changed to 4pm. I know you said you can't come, but I thought I should say, just in case.

Yaris678 (talk) 11:48, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Cheers mate, I would love to come but I'm waiting for pay day as I'm skint :( IJA (talk) 11:54, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

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Live updates again

Hi,

We talked about live updating last season and now I see you doing it again. Please do not do that as it is against consensus. People have beeen blocked for it in the past and if you continue I will consider your edits disruptive. Please stop, thank you. QED237 (talk) 21:56, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

From Wikipedia:Ignore all rules: "If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it." The so-called consensus at Wikipedia:WikiProject Snooker was agreed by only three users. The 2014 proposal to make this an actual rule failed to gain consensus. I have have not violated a single Rule, Policy or Guideline by keeping sport articles up-to-date. I am aware that you warned me last season and I gave you an explanation again. If your warnings continue you, I may have to report you for Wikipedia:Harassment. As things stand, there is no consensus against live editing, I only update articles once the sources/ references have been updated. As a matter of fact, I have brought this issue up at several wiki meetups and the admins and bureaucrats agreed that it was ok for me to live edit as long as I ensure that the article is up-to-date once the match has ended. Regards IJA (talk) 08:26, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Then you may not have been aware of recent consensus on Wikipedia:WikiProject Football and the fact that editor has gotten blocked for live updating after WP:ANI confirmed consensus and blocked the editors. QED237 (talk) 23:15, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
Please show me this so-called "consensus". IJA (talk) 23:20, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

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Humperdinck move

You will probably not understand me but for clarity: you say the argument that links from outside are broken could be used against any move. No. Only when - as in this case - there is no redirect. I imagine the reaction of people expecting information about a person and arriving at a disambiguation page for two people ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:18, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: - I imagine they'd have to click on one of the two links, it isn't the end of the world and it isn't a concern for Wikipedia where an external website's link leads to. Regards IJA (talk) 18:29, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: - It would be a problem for the external website. We shouldn't let the concerns of external websites affect decision making on Wikipedia. It is up to the external website to fix and update their own links, but as a Wikipedian, I'm not bothered if an external website's links work or not, it is not of any concern for Wikipedia. IJA (talk) 18:42, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
I thought that would not understand me. I didn't speak about the move, but that the broken links don't speak against ANY MOVE as you seem to have claimed. A move leaving a redirect is fine, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:52, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: - It will still take them to the page but a redirect version of the page. But like I said, it isn't of any concern where an external website's link leads to. IJA (talk) 18:55, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
(What do you mean by "it"? Or perhaps I don't understand "lead"?) - I would like you to redact your "could be used as an argument against any RM", because it doesn't make sense. See also. (Happen to listen to Humperdinck music right now, Advent concert of Northrhine Westphalia in the Kevelaer Basilika, live broadcast, with the states prime minister.)[7] --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: - No because it still applies, an external weblink will still link to a redirect version of that page. It doesn't matter that someone has taken their name from someone else, Primary Topic still applies. If anything the singer is more notable and more famous than the composer. I know you're a fan of the composer and you probably have a website with a link to the wikipedia article of the composer and this RM has inconvenienced you however that is not a reason to be against this RM. We have guidelines and policies on Wikipedia and we must follow them to build a fair encyclopaedia. Regards IJA (talk) 20:21, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
Listen, I would normally give up trying to be understood. (English is not my first language, I guess you know that.) I am not a fan of the composer, interesting what you think you know. I don't talk about this move, do you understand? I am not talking about guidelines, only about logic or lack thereof. "The argument that off site links are now broken is laughable, you could use that argument to oppose any RM." No. Let's forget that you laugh where I am bitter: the logic is wrong. When there is a redirect, as with most moves, nothing is broken, - therefore that argument could NOT be used to oppose ANY RM, only those without a redirect, as this one, where an external link goes NOT to a redirect version but to a silly disambiguation page of just two names. Laughable, good word that, I didn't know it before, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: - I know all of that, repeating yourself isn't going to change anything, I understood you the first time. I'm not bothered if an external link goes to a disambiguation page. Your English is very good for a second language. Regards IJA (talk) 00:56, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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Offical name of Pejë-Albanian/Pec-Serbian

IJA here is the municipalty offical page name in english.here.Regards and Respect Lindi29 (talk) 22:05, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

@Lindi29: - Thanks for that Lindi however Official Names aren't going to help us per Wikipedia:Official names. WP:COMMONNAME is what we have to go off, if you are able to provide evidence that Peja is the Common Name in the English language, that would be most appreciated. 00:20, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
In this case WP:COMMONNAME is what the other party has to go after and not you , given the fact that the title is different from the official name . However here are some sources among the myriad that prove that Peja is the common name Kosovo By Gail Warrander, Verena Knaus , Page 151 , Historical Dictionary of Kosova By Robert Elsie , Western Balkans , Albanian Literature: A Short History By Robert Elsie . Thus not only the official name is Peja , but these sources ( and many more that i can bring if needed ) prove that Peja is the common name Gjirokastra15 (talk) 08:08, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

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Kosovo-polje\Fushe Kosova

IJA what do you think about this,can you please give your opinion.here.Regard and Respect Lindi29 (talk) 12:01, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

I've given a neutral comment as it is not fair to lobby users in a WP:RM. Regards IJA (talk) 00:24, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

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Pristina

I don't know why you are threatening me, because it will get nowhere; I could very well report you too. However, we should work together to make a non-biased and NPOV-ish Pristina article. I'm just saying if you can put the "country" as Kosovo and put a measly little citation considering what a big territorial dispute it is and how evenly divided the subject is world wide, why can't you do it vice-versa? The best solution though is to put both the "Republic of Kosovo" and the APKM in the first paragraph of the article and acknowledge a territorial dispute, which is not in a citation. LeoC12 (talk) 00:16, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't think that would be helpful. Giving both positions parity would be a great disservice to readers, when one position is real and the other is a political fiction. bobrayner (talk) 00:27, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
There's no *real* position; there's a de facto position, which is obviously favours the "Republic of Kosovo". However, on other articles of unrecognised states which use the Kosovo precedent which also have de facto sovereignty, there is a mention of dispute. Even on China's article, there is a mention of a ROC claim and for the sake of a NPOV and consistency, we have to mention that Kosovo is a disputed territory, which it is. LeoC12 (talk) 03:29, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
@LeoC12: - Pristina is in Kosovo regardless as whether you believe Kosovo to be a province or a country, we have a note to explain the situation. Your ultra-POV pushing and edit warring is unhelpful. Continue and I'll report you. Blind reverting and making controversial edits without consensus is in violation of a load of Wikipedia policies (I could list them all if you wanted). Yes there is mention to the ROC claim on the China article just like there is mention to Serbian claim on the Kosovo article. There is however no mention to the ROC claim on the Beijing article because it isn't required or necessary, on the Pristina article there is mention to the dispute via the note; this is in line with the Wikipedia policy: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Kosovo-related articles. Regards IJA (talk) 14:33, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
The dispute is already mentioned. That's a red herring. Edits like this aren't teaching the controversy, they're erasing the de-facto position and replacing it with fantasy. bobrayner (talk) 14:36, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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Proposed move; opinion

Without trying to impose any kind of sympathy, I'd like to invite you to review my proposed move of this page, regardless of your decision or opinion. It would be great if you'd give your thoughts on the proposal, and/or a comment/opinion. --PjeterPeter (talk) 15:39, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

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New request move for Pec/Peja

I think that given the sensitive issue of this matter , it merits a new move request . I am sure that the majority will vote in favor of sanity and not ' Wikipedia a medium for wp:pov nationalistic pushing' . Thus waiting for 2 more years for a matter that is in complete defiance of wikipedia's fundamental laws , is not the way to go .Gjirokastra15 (talk) 07:48, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

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Another British trying to hide the Fact that Gibraltar is under United Nations list of Non-Self-Governing Territories

I really call for the Administrators to stop the british bulling against this fact. Stop hiding the truth, every single person removing it is British, colonial power trying to desinform. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pep2co (talk • contribs) 16:43, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Epic Fail. You went running to Admins after your POV edit warring and it resulted in you getting blocked hahahahahahahahaha! IJA (talk) 20:00, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Talk:Gibraltar

Hi there. As one of the recent editors of Gibraltar who recently (knowingly or not) participated in an edit war over how much prominence to give to a certain item in the lead of the article, I am inviting you to comment on a proposal at Talk:Gibraltar towards unprotecting the article. Can I also take this opportunity to cordially remind you that it is both more collegial and more effective to discuss in talk than to join in an edit war? Thanks a lot. --John (talk) 23:32, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

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Start Dates for future services

WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT (bullet point #11) specifically states that new services/destinations must have a full start date. So, Air Serbia cannot be added as you did to Pristina International Airport until an FIRM DATE is given. If you disagree, then take your matters to the project talk page. 71.12.206.168 (talk) 02:55, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

That is a preferred notation on a Wikiproject, not a Wikipedia Policy or Guideline. IJA (talk) 11:22, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Yes, that was a guideline, which was agreed by consensus at WT:AIRLINE. And you're not following the majority's opinions with your edits, so please stop.--Jetstreamer Talk 13:03, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
I only made one revision, so what 'edits' (plural) are you referring to? Anyway it was sourced content and depriving our readers/ audiences of properly and reliably referenced knowledge on an encyclopaedia isn't an improvement for Wikipedia. If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it, this is one of the key principles of Wikipedia. I don't particularly care what was agreed at WP:AIRLINE, depriving people of knowledge on a free encyclopaedia goes against what Wikipedia stands for. Does it really matter if a start date is yet to be confirmed? IJA (talk) 13:25, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Oh and I've read that so-called consensus, it hardly stands for much as the so-called consensus doesn't explicitly state that an exact start date must be included before content should be added. Snoozlepet stated there should be a firm date but everyone else said it should just be a year. So my revert was in line with the so-called consensus as it included the year. It would appear that (bullet #11) was added to WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT without a consensus. IJA (talk) 13:35, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Forgot to add WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NOTRAVEL. Wait for a firm date for the new destination to be added.--Jetstreamer Talk 13:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Yes this content isn't news or a travel guide but encyclopaedic content about a future destination for the airport. Also, give me one good reason why I should "Wait for a firm date"? I've already shown that there is no consensus, if there is a consensus, it is to just add the year. IJA (talk) 13:46, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Here you have the link to the discussion where the inclusion of the year (aside from month and day) was under debate. Pleaso also note that bobrayner stated that they updated the guidelines following consensus.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:07, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
That doesn't say we can't have just a year, it says that if we use an exact date, we must include the year too to clarify which year. That archived discussion does not state that an exact confirmed date must be established before content can be added to the article. IJA (talk) 14:14, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

The source says that flights are expected to start in 2015. Therefore, it's reasonable for the article to say that flights are expected to start in 2015. To remove sourced content because one of wikipedia's internal guidelines prefers a precise date is either witless bureaucratism or deliberate disruption. Jetstreamer, when you linked to my comments, did you realise I was responding to somebody who was deliberately removing sourced content, leaving readers vulnerable to outdated articles? Do you now realise you're using the same comment to justify removing sourced content which leaves readers vulnerable to an outdated article? bobrayner (talk) 16:32, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Cheers Bob. The content is sourced, I don't understand why we can't say that flights will take place at some point this year without having an exact date. It is ludicrous! IJA (talk) 16:39, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

I have started a discussion at WT:AIRPORTS regarding this. Let's continue the discussion there. Citydude1017 (talk) 17:11, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

The sourced content can be included anywhere in the article, except for the destinations table according to WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand.--Jetstreamer Talk 17:15, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Many people have different opinions and arguments on Wikipedia. That is why it would be best to discuss this matter so we can all come to an agreement and strive to make Wikipedia a better encyclopedia. Citydude1017 (talk) 17:36, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

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Kieran Wallace listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Kieran Wallace. Since you had some involvement with the Kieran Wallace redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. JMHamo (talk) 13:20, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

@JMHamo: - I'm happy for the history to be redirected to the article "Kieran Wallace". I'm a bit confused as to why "Kieran Wallace (footballer)" was created in the first place. IJA (talk) 16:39, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
@IJA: Hopefully this will explain all... JMHamo (talk) 16:42, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
@JMHamo: - Makes a bit more sense haha, but there isn't even an article for the Irish banker. Oh well, at least it's been resolved. IJA (talk) 16:47, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, Thank you for that. I believe I can use primary sources for transfers then but use third-party for match reports which are more likely to be biased. Skyblueshaun (talk) 09:46, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

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