User:Jnestorius/Irish Volunteers

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Timeline[edit]

Date Event
1 November 1913 "the North Began"
11 November 1913 Meeting at Wynn's Hotel
25 November 1913 Public meeting at the Rotunda, 27-member Provisional Committee
9 June 1914 Redmond ultimatum
19 June 1914 Redmond's 25 nominees published (he though original numbered 25 not 27)
??? 1914 Redmond's 25 added to original Provisional Committee under latter's protest
14 July 1914 Redmond's 25 nominees attend Provisional Committee for the first time
26 July 1914 Howth gun-running
4 August 1914 British entry into World War I
"By August" Some Volunteer companies had split.[1]
20 September 1914 Woodenbridge speech
24 September 1914 20 of 27 of original Provisional Committee sign open letter repudiating Redmond; mention Casement would have signed if not absent[2] Take over HQ at 41 Kildare Street.[3]
30 Sep 1914 Redmondite meeting at Dublin City Hall; name mentions in resolutions proposed by:-
  • Devlin/McCafferty:
    • 1 "Provisional Committee of the Irish Volunteers ... for the guidance and control of the Irish National Volunteers"
    • 3 "an official organ entitled The National Volunteer
    • 5 & #6 "the Irish National Volunteers"
  • Devlin/Page: "the Irish National Volunteers"
  • Curley/Walsh: "the companies of Volunteers"
  • Devlin/O'Hare: "the National Volunteer Force"
10 October 1914 "Proposed Constitution of the Irish Volunteers"[4]
14 October 1914 Redmond presides at Dublin City Hall meeting of National Committee, agrees Constitution, which uses name "National Volunteers".
25 October 1914 160 delegates at "First Convention" under McNeill endorse Constitution[4] Grob-Fitzgibbon says Redmond to "avoid confusion" announced name "National Volunteers" "immediately after this convention",[4] though maybe that's a thinko for 14 Oct "immediately after" 10 Oct.
September 1916 National Volunteers refers to itself as "the Irish National Volunteers" in a resolution (arguing against too close an association with the IPP).[5]

Names[edit]

Grob-Fitzgibbon says Redmond announced name "National Volunteers" to "avoid confusion".[4]

Charles Townshend says "by mutual consent" they adopted "Irish Volunteers" and "Irish National Volunteers" respectively; "Though it is often suggested that the latter title was invented at the time of the split, in fact it had been in use by many units from early 1914 onwards."[6] Cumann na mBan's founding document used "Irish National Volunteers".[6]

"By 15 June, the Irish Parliamentary Party had ‘in dramatic fashion’, taken charge of the movement which then became known as the National Volunteers."[7]

Medallists P. Quinn & Co. of Belfast made otherwise identical brass-and-enamel badges with "NV" or "IV".[8]

Labels for the two organisations derived from the October 1914 split in the Irish Volunteers[9]
Self-designation from October 1914 Dublin Castle names up to May 1915 Police labels from May 1915
Irish Volunteers Irish National Volunteers, Irish Volunteers, Irish National Volunteers (Sinn Fein section), Irish Volunteers (Sinn Fein section), Irish Volunteers (MacNeill section) Irish Volunteers (Sinn Fein)
National Volunteers Irish National Volunteers, Irish Volunteers, Irish National Volunteers (Redmondite section), Irish Volunteers (Redmondite section) Irish National Volunteer Force

Personnel[edit]

Grob-Fitzgibbon says Redmond's committee included only his 25 nominees; Hobson says it included "five or six" of the original Provisional Committee.[3]

Committees of the Irish and National Volunteers[10]
Name Affiliation(s) When joined After split Notes
Eoin MacNeill CnaG Original Irish Secretary; then Chairman
Laurence Kettle AOH, IPP Original ??? Secretary
The O'Rahilly SF Original Irish Treasurer
John Gore AOH Original ??? Treasurer
Thomas MacDonagh CnaG Original Irish
Joseph Plunkett CnaG Original Irish Irish Review
Piaras Béaslaí IRB Original Irish
Michael J. Judge AOH Original Irish
Peter (Peadar) Macken IRB, SF, CnaG Original Irish Labour leader.[11]
John Fitzgibbon CnaG, SF Original Irish Not John Fitzgibbon, IPP MP
Patrick Pearse CnaG Original Irish St. Enda's School
Patrick O'Riain IRB, FÉ Original Irish
Bulmer Hobson IRB, FÉ Original Irish
Eamonn Martin IRB, FÉ Original Irish
Con Colbert IRB, FÉ Original Irish
Éamonn Ceannt IRB, CnaG, SF Original Irish Assistant to the O'Rahilly as treasurer
Seán Mac Diarmada IRB Original Irish Irish Freedom
Séamus O'Connor IRB Original Irish
Liam Mellows IRB Original Irish
Colm O'Loughlin IRB Original Irish St. Enda's School
Liam Gogan Original Irish Poet[citation needed]
Peter White Celtic Literary Society Original Irish
Roger Casement CnaG Original Irish
Thomas Kettle IPP, AOH Original ???
James Lenehan AOH Original ???
Michael Lonergan IRB, FÉ Original ???
Maurice Moore IPP, CnaG, Connaught Rangers Original ???
Peter O'Reilly AOH Original ???
Robert Page IRB, GAA Original ???
John Walsh AOH Original ???
Right Rev. Mgr. A. Ryan, P.P., V.G., Tipperary ; Redmond
Very Rev. Canon Murphy, P.P., Macroom ; Redmond
Very Rev. J. McCafferty, Adm., Letterkeuny; Redmond
Rev. F. J. O'Hare, C.C., Newry; Redmond
W. H. K. Redmond, M.P. ; Redmond
Joseph Devlin, M.P. ; Redmond
T. J. Condon, M.P. ; Redmond
the Lord Mayor of Dublin ; Redmond
the Mayor of Sligo ; Redmond
Michael Governey, Chairman Co. Council, Carlow ; Redmond
J. Creed- Meredith, B.L., Dublin; Redmond
John D. Nugent, T.C., Dublin; Redmond
John T. Donovan, B.L., Dublin; Redmond
John P. Gaynor, B.L., Dublin; Redmond
P. Murphy, Solicitor, Waterford; Redmond
T. P. Curley, Dublin; Redmond
Joseph Hutchinson, Dublin; Redmond
E. J. Kenny, J.P., Dublin; Redmond
Stephen J. Hand, Dublin; Redmond
J. J. Scannell, J.P., Dublin; Redmond
J. F. Dalton, J.P., Dublin; Redmond
Martin J. Burke, Solicitor, Belfast; Redmond
J. F. Small, J.P., Clones; Redmond
George Boyle, Derry; Redmond
Dr. T. J. Madden, Kiltimagh, Mayo. Redmond


Redmond papers June July 1914 NLI

References[edit]

Sources[edit]

  • Brown, Shane (2018). "What happened to Redmond's National Volunteers?". History Ireland. 26 (1): 34–37. ISSN 0791-8224. JSTOR 90017335.
  • Finnan, Joseph P. (2004). John Redmond and Irish Unity, 1912-1918. Syracuse University Press. ISBN 978-0-8156-3043-2. Retrieved 15 May 2020 – via Google Books.
  • Grob-Fitzgibbon, Benjamin (2007). Turning Points of the Irish Revolution: The British Government, Intelligence, and the Cost of Indifference, 1912–1921. Palgrave Macmillan. ISBN 978-0-230-60432-2. Retrieved 15 May 2020 – via Google Books.
  • Hobson, Bulmer (1918). A short history of the Irish volunteers. Dublin: Candle Press. Retrieved 15 May 2020 – via Internet Archive.
  • Martin, F. X., ed. (2013). The Irish Volunteers 1913-1915: Recollections and Documents (2nd ed.). Merrion Press. ISBN 978-1-908928-43-6. Retrieved 15 May 2020 – via Google Books.
  • Whearity, Peter Francis (December 2011). The Irish Volunteers in north Co. Dublin, 1913–17 (PDF) (MA). NUI Maynooth. p. 25. Retrieved 15 May 2020.

Citations[edit]

  1. ^ Whearity 2011 p.51
  2. ^ Hobson 1918 pp.198–202
  3. ^ a b Hobson 1918 p.202
  4. ^ a b c d Grob-Fitzgibbon 2007 p.86
  5. ^ Finnan 2004 p.151
  6. ^ a b Townshend, Charles (2006). "England's Difficulty". Easter 1916: The Irish Rebellion. Penguin. ISBN 978-0-14-190276-0. Retrieved 15 May 2020.
  7. ^ Whearity 2011 p.25
  8. ^ "Lot 93: National Volunteers brass and enamel pin". The Eclectic Collector. Whyte's Auctions. 3 February 2018. Retrieved 7 June 2020. "Lot 94: Irish Volunteers brass and enamel pin". The Eclectic Collector. Whyte's Auctions. 3 February 2018. Retrieved 7 June 2020.
  9. ^ Grob-Fitzgibbon 2007 pp.86–87
  10. ^ Hobson p.19
  11. ^ "Ó MAICÍN, Peadar (1878–1916)". ainm.ie (in Irish). Retrieved 15 May 2020.; Callan, Charles (2006). "Labour Lives no. 8: Peadar Macken (1878-1916)". Saothar. 31: 121–123. ISSN 0332-1169. JSTOR 23199972.
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