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Please Join[edit]

I saw on your userpage that your were interested in joining a Canon Law WikiProject. Please join "my" WikiProject Canon Law. Thanks and may God bless you and your vocation (I'm discerning the priesthood)! CanonLawJunkie (talk) 23:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar[edit]

The Modest Barnstar
This Modest barnstar is awarded to 'Paulmnguyen for copy editing articles totalling 6,747 words during the Guild of Copy Editors July 2010 backlog drive. Your contributions are appreciated!--Diannaa (Talk) 15:01, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

GOCE Backlog Elimination Drive Wrap-up[edit]

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors July 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive. Thanks to all who participated in the drive! Over 100 editors—including Jimbo Wales—signed up this time (nearly triple the participants of the May drive). This benefited the Guild as well as the articles in need of copy editing. You can see from the comparison graphs that we increased the number of completed copyedits substantially. Unfortunately, we were not able to meet our goal of completely wiping out 2008 from the queue. We also were not able to reduce the backlog to less than 6,000 articles. We suspect people were busy with real life summertime things, at least in the northern hemisphere! We were able to remove the months of January, February, March, April, and May from the backlog, and we almost wiped out the month of June. We reduced the backlog by 1,289 articles (17%), so all in all it was a very successful drive, and we will be holding another event soon. We'll come up with some new ideas to try to keep things fresh and interesting. Keep up the good work, everybody!


Stats
If you copy edited at least 4,000 words, you qualify for a barnstar. If you edited in the May 2010 GOCE Backlog Elimination Drive, your word totals are cumulative for barnstars (not the leaderboard). Over the course of the next week or two, we will be handing out the barnstars.

GOCE backlog elimination drive chart up to 31 July
  • Eight people will receive The Most Excellent Order of the Caretaker's Barnstar (100,000+ words): Chaosdruid, Diannaa, Ericleb01, Lfstevens, Shimeru, S Masters, The Utahraptor, and Torchiest.
  • Bullock and Slon02 will receive The Order of the Superior Scribe (80,000+).
  • The Barnstar of Diligence (60,000+) goes to Derild4921, GaryColemanFan, kojozone, and Mlpearc.
  • The Modern Guild of Copy Editors Barnstar (40,000+) goes to A. Parrot, AirplanePro, Auntieruth55, Bejinhan, David Rush, and mono.
  • Nobody will receive The Old School League of Copy Editors award (30,000+).
  • The Tireless Contributor Barnstar (20,000+) goes to Backtable, Cindamuse, dtgriffith, Duff, e. ripley, Laurinavicius, NerdyScienceDude, and TEK.
  • The Cleanup Barnstar (12,000+) goes to Brickie, Casliber, cymru lass, December21st2012Freak, Nolelover, TheTito, Whoosit, and YellowMonkey.
  • The Working Man's Barnstar (8,000+) goes to Bsherr, Duchess of Bathwick, HELLKNOWZ, Mabeenot, noraft, Pyfan, and Richard asr.
  • The Modest Barnstar (4,000+) goes to Adrian J. Hunter, Airplaneman, Annalise, Camerafiend, Cricket02, Fetchcomms, Gosox5555, LeonidasSpartan, Paulmnguyen, Piotrus, SuperHamster, Taelus, and TPW.


Gold Star Award

Gold Star Award Leaderboard
Articles Words 5k+ Articles
1. Diannaa (248) Shimeru (200,392) Shimeru/Ericleb01 (13)
2. Slon02 (157) Diannaa (164,960) Chaosdruid (8)
3. GaryColemanFan (101) Chaosdruid (130,630) Derild4921 (7)
4. Torchiest (100) The Utahraptor (117,347) GaryColemanFan/Slon02 (6)
5. Shimeru (80) Ericleb01 (114,893) Bejinhan/The Utahraptor (5)

Coordinator: ɳorɑfʈ Talk! Co-coordinators: Diannaa TALK and S Masters (talk) | Newsletter by: The Raptor You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions

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GOCE Invitation[edit]


There are currently
2,809 articles in the backlog.
You can help us! Join the
September 2010 drive today!

The Guild of Copy-Editors – September 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive


The Wikipedia Guild of Copy-Editors invite you to participate in the September 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive will begin on 1 September at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on 30 September at 23:59 (UTC). The goals for this drive are to eliminate 2008 from the queue and to reduce the backlog to fewer than 5,000 articles.

Sign-up has already begun at the September drive page, and will be open throughout the drive. If you have any questions or concerns, please leave a message on the drive's talk page.

Before you begin copy-editing, please carefully read the instructions on the main drive page. Please make sure that you know how to copy-edit, and be familiar with the Wikipedia Manual of Style.

Awards and barnstars
A range of barnstars will be awarded to active participants. Some are exclusive to GoCE drives. More information on awards can be found on the main drive page.

Thank you; we look forward to meeting you on the drive!
ɳorɑfʈ Talk! and S Masters (talk).

Contemplative Prayer[edit]

I've reverted the change on the Contemplative prayer article, because the link is self-published research/material. The link DOES reference potential verifiable sources, so if you believe the Wiki article is missing something in regards to Contemplative Prayer, please consider editing the article to include it. In the past, this article (and similar religious articles) have been targets for malicious "discernment ministry" link attacks (which are also - similar to your link - articles about the subject, but primarily original research). As an editor of this article (and similar ones), I've tried to be consistent in the way that WP:V, WP:EL, WP:NOR and WP:NOT are applied, both in the case of proponents and opponents of the article's subject.--Lyonscc (talk) 14:15, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip - I added a piece sourced in the Catechism of the Catholic Church to the views section. I see what you mean about the nature of my previous source. Paulmnguyen (talk) 16:15, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
I was just reading through some info on WP:CATHOLICISM and found an article tag that refers to the Catholic Encyclopedia (the source that I reinstated in Contemplative prayer). According to the Wikipedia article on Catholic encyclopedia, it is a proper (though obsolete; the Catechism of the Catholic Church takes its place today) Church document from 1913, and is therefore ultimately verifiable, because it once stood as an authoritative reference for the Roman Catholic Church. It probably should have been cited more specifically than it was when I first edited the article, but it is not "self-published research/material" as you first warned. The fact that it is hosted on NewAdvent.org is a result of the digitization's origin as a personal project, as indicated in its article. Again, I'm learning how Wikipedia works and what flies and what doesn't, so I greatly appreciate you looking out for the quality of content here. Thanks! -Paulmnguyen (talk) 01:49, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Ah, excellent! You are correct - it was the site host, etc. which made it appear to be self-published. Just wondering (since I'm not an expert in Catholicism) - if the Catholic encyclopedia is obsolete and replaced by the Catechism, should we try to use references from the latter source in the article, rather than the former one(since the latter is current practice)? Blessings.--Lyonscc (talk) 12:40, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
I believe so; it is just as well that I sourced that article in the Catechism now. -Paulmnguyen (talk) 12:55, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

I just wanted to thank you for taking your time to copy edit the "Ni Es Lo Mismo Ni Es Igual" article. And thanks for that big change on that sentence structure. Magiciandude (talk) 05:21, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

You're very welcome! Paulmnguyen (talk) 22:08, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks from the GOCE[edit]

Thank you very much for signing up for the Guild of Copy Editors' September Backlog Elimination Drive! The copyedit backlog stretches back two years, to the summer of 2008! We're going to need all the help we can muster to reduce the backlog to a manageable size. We've set a goal of clearing all of 2008 from the backlog, and getting the total under 5000. To do that, we're going to need more participants. Please invite anyone you can to join the drive! Once again, thanks for your support! If you have any questions, contact one of our coordinators—ɳorɑfʈ Talk!, The Raptor You rang?, or SMasters (Talk).

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of Diannaa at 21:46, 19 August 2010 (UTC).

39th Infantry Division (United States)[edit]

Thanks so much for the work on this article. I really appreciate the time that you spent working on it.Damon.cluck (talk) 01:49, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

No problem. Between my initial sweep and Diannaa's much finer-toothed comb, you're in pretty good shape. -Paulmnguyen (talk) 01:52, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikify Drive[edit]

Since you signed up for the September 2010 GOCE event, I wanted to invite you to participate in a similar event: the September 2010 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive. In case you didn't know, "Wikification" is the process of formatting articles using Wiki markup (as opposed to plain text or HTML) and adding internal links to material. Barnstars will be awarded to participating editors. Thanks!

 ono 

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of Mono at 00:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC).

GOCE drive has begun[edit]

Hello, I just wanted to take a moment and announce that the September 2010 Backlog Elimination Drive has started, and will run for a month. Thanks for signing up. There's a special prize for most edits on the first day, in case you've got high ambitions. --Diannaa (Talk) 02:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of Diannaa at 03:18, 1 September 2010 (UTC).

Welcome to WikiProject Catholicism![edit]


Hello, Paulmnguyen/Archive2010c, and welcome to Wikiproject Catholicism! Thank you for your generous offer to help contribute. I'm sure your input will be much appreciated. I hope you enjoy contributing here and being a Catholic Project Wikipedian! If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can see a list of open tasks, and come to the Project talk page, where you can join in our discussions about Catholic-related articles. We can always use help with the project itself, and on main project pages such as Catholic Church which are sometimes subject to vandalism and poor content changes. Feel free to discuss anything on the project, but please remember to sign all your comments, and help us to make all of the many Catholicism-related articles much better. Again, welcome, and happy editing!

Theoria[edit]

Thank you for your work. I am no expert and the article is based on the sources given- primarily Vladimir Lossky's Vision of God. LoveMonkey (talk) 22:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

No problem! The article was tagged for copy-edit and we're having a drive this month to clean up all the articles that have been tagged since 2008 - an editor kind of gave up on a first pass because the content was so difficult to get through, so I decided to put in some extra effort to reorganize it; he's since come back to refine it further. If you think you might be up for some copyediting, check out the Guild - it can be fun and you can start with short articles to get some practice (the Theoria article, at over 4000 words, is pretty daunting if you're just starting out). Cheers! Paulmnguyen (talk) 23:25, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Hmmmmmm............[edit]

I'm not going to "tattle" or anything like that, but I noticed you gave yourself credit for Puran Bhagat......although you admitted it needed a major re-write and "wasn't ready" for copyedit. Admittedly, you worked on it......that's for certain. Do you think that's terribly ethical? Granted, we're just getting barnstars.....not cash payments or anything.....but still.............Buddpaul (talk) 03:28, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

I guess I shouldn't have put it down as counting on my drive credit. Removing the copyedit tag because it needs major rewrite (or for any valid reason) would reduce the backlog, which is the actual goal, so maybe I should have an article count but not the word count for this one? I don't mind dropping it entirely - I see your point in my efforts there being misleading. Had it been a significantly longer article that needed major rewrite, I would have done that and copy edited it (as in Theoria). Thanks for the tip! -Paulmnguyen (talk) 12:00, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

GOCE newsletter[edit]

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors Backlog Elimination Drive!

GOCE September 2010 backlog elimination drive progress graphs

Participation report — We have 71 participants in the September drive. 95 people signed up for the July drive, and in May we had 36.

Progress report — We have been making solid progress in eliminating the 2008 articles from the backlog so far. If we continue to focus our firepower we can completely wipe out 2008 from the queue. Overall volumes are lower than expected though, with nearly a thousand articles yet to be done if we are to meet our overall target. If you have not yet participated in the drive, we recommend you do so. If each person who signed up edits one article per day from now till the end of the month we can eliminate another 1,065 articles from the backlog. All contributions are appreciated.

Announcement: credit for 10k+ articles — Participants editing a 10k word article may claim credit for two 5k+ articles on the leaderboard. Those that edit a 15k word article may claim credit for three. Regardless, the article is still counted as a single article in the tallies.

Reminder — Articles from the Requests page can be included in your tally, even if they do not have a copy edit tag. This is a great place to go if you are interested in finding a higher quality article to work on.


This newsletter was prepared for the GOCE by Diannaa (Talk), S Masters (talk),  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK, and The Raptor Let's talk.

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of The Guild of Copy Editors at 15:10, 15 September 2010 (UTC).

Hugo von Hohenlandenberg[edit]

Dropping you a line in case you don't have this watchlisted - or in case your watchlist is so huge you don't notice :-) I've retranslated the section, using the latest version of the German article and at one point adding material from a related article that the German one refers readers to, but that we don't have. Hidden comments at all points of change. Hope this version is adequate. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:08, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! That was a great help! -Paulmnguyen (talk) 01:23, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Shiny Thing alert :-)[edit]

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
I hearby award you this shiny thing for restructuring and cleaning up Theoria, making the article much easier to work on. Thanks, and happy editing. Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:56, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

More shiny stuff[edit]

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
I hearby award you yet this shiny of the shiny for making La Masia and History of FC Barcelona readable. Thanks a bunch, there arent enough of you out there.Sandman888 (talk) 17:37, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! It was my pleasure to help out. –Paul M. Nguyen (chat|blame) 19:12, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Ack! Sorry about that![edit]

Re:Natural Language Support Object: Actually, I'm not at your level of software knowledge, just looked liked it was. Which is why in my edit summaries I say 'apparent' reference(s), not 'definite', whenever I remove unreferenced tags. That said, if you want to correct that edit, it's ok by me, since my edits on Wikipedia are most decidedly not written in stone. As for orphan tags, I usually don't touch them, unless they're typoed.(I think that one was in parentheses, not bracket..hmm, not sure about that, I'll look it up in the revision log and get back to you on that. :-> As for putting the article up for deletion, I leave that up to you. My expertise is in removing uncatgory tags and/or grammar fixing & I usually put up empty categories for deletion, articles not so much. Anyhoo, like I said, will check out the article and get back to you soon. Alvin Seville (talk) 23:52, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

The October 2010 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive is about to begin![edit]

Get ready.

The October 2010 Wikification Backlog Elimination Drive is about to begin. Prep your keyboards, as the drive aims to wikify over 2,000 articles this month. We're going to need all the firepower we can get, so please get your friends to join up as well. In case you didn't know, wikification is fairly simple: just add wiki markup, links, and similar ". Thanks for joining; we're looking forward to an exciting time this month!

Regards,

Mono (talk · contribs) and WikiCopter (talk · contribs)

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Canon law and clergy sexual abuse questions[edit]

Please see TalK:Catholic sex abuse cases#Canon law prevented laicization of abusive priests?, where I believe some input from someone directly knowledgable about canon law would be appreciated. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 16:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

I am not actually that knowledgeable about Canon Law to answer those questions at this time. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. –Paul M. Nguyen (chat|blame) 00:55, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
No problem, I understand, believe me. Thanks for the response. :) John Carter (talk) 00:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)