User:Pldx1/Joseon-references

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The 40 references given in the Joseon Kingdom page are more than often poorly filled. Among them, we have:

  • 3 broken links. Another link to the controversial 'Korean Nobi in American Mirror' should be found (precisely because this text was influent). The other have to be replaced.
  • 5 unfair quotations UFQ. For example, among the three references given for 'Qing tributary 1636', we have two quotations about Ming in 1500 and the last one is about the Battle of Koeniggraetz...
  • 9 references are in Korean. When asserting a non controversial point, these references should be replaced by English ones. When the point is controversial, it would be great to provide a Korean quotation and a fair translation.

Moreover, these sources are more than often poorly used. Here are some examples.

  • If the 'Cambridge history of Japan' is not worth anything, it should not been used at all. If these 7 books are worth something, it looks weird to use them only to discuss about 'iron or not iron' on the top of the Turtle ships.
  • It would be great to compare 'Cambridge history of Japan' and 'Cambridge history of China' when both series intersect on a Korean topic. The long-in-the-works 'Cambridge history of Korea', which promises broad coverage of traditional Korea, has encountered troubled waters since the passing of Prof. James Palais, its late chief editor.
  • In the same vein, using the Pratt's Dictionary (1999) only for a 10 line narrative item on the Gyehae Treaty seems weird. If this book is only a waste of paper, don't use it at all. If it is authoritative, use it for checking everything (inside a special section, saying which side the Pratt's Dictionary stands in the various controversies).
  • The question of slavery is controversial and nevertheless unavoidable. It should be documented with strong references, discussing on facts. Moreover, references must be used honestly.

Due to the actual ban from editing, I propose to start by a technical, neutral, replacement of each reference tag, by a better filled tag. Concerning the quotations tagged as UFQ, I require your opinion on the UNFAIRNESS of the quotations (not on the points that these quotations should illustrate). The replacements that I am suggesting are given in User:Pldx1/Joseon-references. I prefer to collect a formal consensus before proposing this edit to the administrators.

In a second step, a list of useful, academic, books should be built. Obviously, 'biased' books (i.e. books supporting such or such opinion) have to be included if they are presenting documented facts. It's a long way to go !


Joseon Kingdom References, old and news[edit]

   K01ok	[1] = [2] Broken link.      

   K02ok	[3] = [4]
 
    02a	 [3]  = [4]  

    03ok	[5] = [6] UFQ

    04ok	[7] = [8] UFQ

    05ok	[9] = [10]UFQ

    06ok [11] = [12] 

    07ok [13] = [14]

    K08ok [15] = [16]

   K09ok	[17] = [18] 

   K10ok [19] = [20]

   11ok [21] = [21]

   12ok [22] = [23]

   13ok [24] = [25]

   14ok [26] = [27]

   K15ok [28] = [29]  

   16aok [30]  =  [31] 
      
   16ok [30] = [32]

   17a	[33] = Repetition of the reference in the same § is useless.
      
   K17	[33] = [33]
      
   17b	[33] = Repetition of the reference in the same § is useless.
      
   17c	[33]  = Repetition of the reference in the same § is useless.

   18ok [34] = [35] UFQ.

   19ok [36] = Broken link

   20ok [37] = [38]

   21ok [39] = [40]

   22ok [41] = [42]

   23ok [43] = [44]

   24ok [45] =  [46] 

   25ok [47] = [48]

   26ok [49] = [50] 

   27ok [51] = [52] 

   28ok [53] = [54] [55] UFQ

   29ok [56] = [57]

   30ok [58] =  [59]

   31ok [60] = [61]

   32ok [62] = [63]

   33ok [64] = [65]

   34ok [66] = [67] 

   35ok [68] = [69]

   36ok [70] = [71] [72]

   K37ok [73] = [74]

   38ok [75] = [76]

   K39	[77] = [78]    

   40ok [79] = Broken link


Notes[edit]

  1. ^ Lee, Jun-gyu (이준규) (2009-07-22). "(세상사는 이야기) 왜색에 물든 우리 말-(10)" (in Korean). Newstown. 1392년부터 1910년까지 한반도 전역을 통치하였던 조선(朝鮮)은 일반적으로 조선 왕조(朝鮮王朝)라 칭하였으며, 어보(御寶), 국서(國書) 등에도 대조선국(大朝鮮國)이라는 명칭을 사용하였었다. (translation) Joseon which had ruled from 1392 to 1910 was commonly referred to as "Joseon Dynasty" while "Kingdom of Great Joseon" was used in the Royal Seal, national documents and others.
  2. ^ (in Korean)Lee, Jun-gyu (이준규) (2009-07-22). "(세상사는 이야기) 왜색에 물든 우리 말-(10)" (in Korean). Newstown. 1392년부터 1910년까지 한반도 전역을 통치하였던 조선(朝鮮)은 일반적으로 조선 왕조(朝鮮王朝)라 칭하였으며, 어보(御寶), 국서(國書) 등에도 대조선국(大朝鮮國)이라는 명칭을 사용하였었다. (translation) From 1392 till 1910, rulers of the Joseon peninsula were commonly referred to as "Joseon Dynasty" (Joseon Wangjo) while "Kingdom of Great Joseon" (Daejoseongug) was used in the Royal Seal, national documents and others.
  3. ^ a b 아틀라스 한국사 편찬위원회 (2004). 아틀라스한국사. 사계절. p. 108. ISBN 8958280328.
  4. ^ a b (in Korean) Atlas (2004), p.108
  5. ^ http://www.koreanhistoryproject.org/Ket/C09/E0901.htm
  6. ^ "Tribute and Trade". Korean History Project. Retrieved 6 September 2011.. Unfair quotation: the call to reference says "Qing tributary state in 1636" while the page is about Emperor Yongle and King Sejong i.e. about the foreign policy of the early Ming Dynasty.
  7. ^ http://16cwd.pa.go.kr/cwd/en/pub/korea/cnt06020203.html
  8. ^ "Late Joseon Period". About Korea. Cheongwadae, Office of the President, Republic of Korea. Retrieved 6 September 2011.. Unfair quotation: the call to reference says "tributary", while the page says "suzerain-vassal" and presents the whole thing as a transfer from Ming to Qing, not as a lowering of status.
  9. ^ Daniel Moran: The Reader's Companion to Military History, p. 246
  10. ^ Daniel Moran, Cowley's Reader (2001), p. 246. This link seems irrelevant. D. Moran authored, p. 245, an entry named Koeniggraetz, Battle of. The entry, including Daniel Moran's name, goes to the three top lines of p. 246. The next entry, is named Korean War, is authored by K.F. Friday, is about Imjin war, and says "Korea, a vassal state of the Ming".
  11. ^ Richard Rutt.; et al. (September 1999). Korea. Routledge/Curzon. ISBN 0700704647. {{cite book}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |last= (help)
  12. ^ Pratt's Dictionnary (1999), pp.255--256
  13. ^ John W. Hall.; et al. (April 27, 1990). The Cambridge history of Japan [Medieval Japan]. Vol. 3. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521223547. {{cite book}}: Explicit use of et al. in: |last= (help)
  14. ^ Yamamura (1990), p. 442
  15. ^ (in Korean) 계해약조 癸亥約條Nate / Britannica
  16. ^ "계해약조" [Gyehae treaty] (in Korean).. Provider Nate offers a free access to a Korean translated version of Britannica
  17. ^ (in Korean)계해조약 癸亥約條 Nate / Encyclopedia of Korean Culture
  18. ^ "계해약조" [Gyehae treaty] (in Korean).. Provider Nate offers a free access to Encyclopedia of Korean Culture
  19. ^ 박영규 (2008). 한권으로 읽는 세종대왕실록. 웅진, 지식하우스. ISBN 978-8901077543.
  20. ^ Park, Yeong-gyu 박영규 (2008). 한권으로 읽는 세종대왕실록 [Reading the Sillok of King Sejong the Great] (in Korean). 웅진 지식하우스 Jisighauseu (Woongjin Knowledge House). Event occurs at 534. p. ? in 1--534. ISBN 9788901077543.. An harsh description of the book can be obtained by daum+google (remember, three kinds is Sejong !)
  21. ^ a b "King Sejong the Great And The Golden Age Of Korea". asiasociety.org. 19 August 2008. Retrieved 27 November 2009.
  22. ^ Hawley, Samuel (2005). The Imjin War. Japan's Sixteenth-Century Invasion of Korea and Attempt to Conquer China. Seoul: The Royal Asiatic Society, Korea Branch. pp. 195f. ISBN 8995442425.
  23. ^ Hawley (2005), 195f.
  24. ^ Turnbull, Stephen (2002). Samurai Invasion. Japan's Korean War 1592–98. London: Cassell & Co. p. 244. ISBN 0304359483.
  25. ^ Turnbull (2002), p. 244
  26. ^ Roh, Young-koo (2004). "Yi Sun-shin, an Admiral Who Became a Myth". The Review of Korean Studies. 7 (3): 13.
  27. ^ See p.27, in Roh, Young-koo (2004). "Yi Sun-shin, an Admiral Who Became a Myth". The Review of Korean Studies. 7 (3): 15–36.
  28. ^ 宣祖實錄二十五年 (1592) 五月壬戌 (May 3) "危亡迫至, 君臣之間, 何可有隱? 大抵收拾人心爲上。 近來宮人作弊。 內需司人, 假稱宮物, 而積怨於民。 今日生變之由, 皆緣王子宮人作弊, 故人心怨叛, 與倭同心矣。 聞賊之來也, 言: ‘我不殺汝輩, 汝君虐民, 故如此。’ 云我民亦曰: ‘倭亦人也, 吾等何必棄家而避也?’ 請誅內需司作弊人, 且免平安道積年逋欠。" "慶尙道人皆叛云, 然耶?"—The annals of the Choson Dynasty—National Institute of Korean History
  29. ^ "Seonjo Sillok, 1592L/05/03, 6th record"., recovered from Sillok web site 宣祖實錄二十五年 (1592) 五月壬戌 (May 3)] "危亡迫至, 君臣之間, 何可有隱? 大抵收拾人心爲上。 近來宮人作弊。 內需司人, 假稱宮物, 而積怨於民。 今日生變之由, 皆緣王子宮人作弊, 故人心怨叛, 與倭同心矣。 聞賊之來也, 言: ‘我不殺汝輩, 汝君虐民, 故如此。’ 云我民亦曰: ‘倭亦人也, 吾等何必棄家而避也?’ 請誅內需司作弊人, 且免平安道積年逋欠。" "慶尙道人皆叛云, 然耶?"
  30. ^ a b Characteristics of Queen of Corea The New York Times Nov 10, 1895
  31. ^ "Characteristics of Queen of Corea". The New York Times. Nov 10, 1895.
  32. ^ "Denouncing the Japanese Murderers of the Queen". The New York Times. Oct 21, 1895.
  33. ^ a b c d e Park Jong-hyo (박종효), former professor at Lomonosov Moscow State University (2002-01-01). "일본인 폭도가 가슴을 세 번 짓밟고 일본도로 난자했다" (in Korean) (508). Dong-a Ilbo: 472 ~ 485. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)
  34. ^ Gyeongguk daejeon
  35. ^ Gyeongguk daejeon. Unfair quotation. This wiki page says nothing about colors of the official robes. In fact, this page contains only links to AKS pages, that in turn only contains links to references proving that Gyeongguk daejeon was actually a code of law and not a book of poems
  36. ^ Kyujanggak Institute for Korean Studies, "About Rank of Joseon Officials"
  37. ^ Ch'oe YH, PH Lee & WT de Bary (eds.) (2000), Sources of Korean Tradition: Volume II: From the Sixteenth to the Twentieth Centuries. Columbia University Press, p. 6
  38. ^ Choe (2000), p.6
  39. ^ Jun SH, JB Lewis & H-R Kang (2008), Korean Expansion and Decline from the Seventeenth to the Nineteenth Century: A View Suggested by Adam Smith. J. Econ. Hist. 68: 244–82.
  40. ^ Jun et al. (2008), p. ?
  41. ^ "...before the introduction of modern medicine in the early 1900s the average life expectancy for Koreans was just 24 for males and 26 for females." Lankov, Andrei (2007). The Dawn of Modern Korea. 384-12 Seokyo-dong, Mapo-gu, Seoul, South Korea, 121-893: EunHaeng Namu. p. 47. ISBN 978-89-5660-214-1. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)CS1 maint: location (link)
  42. ^ Before the introduction of modern medicine in the early 1900s the average life expectancy for Koreans was just 24 for males and 26 for females. Lankov (2007), p. 47
  43. ^ Oh SC (2006), Economic growth in P'yongan Province and the development of Pyongyang in the Late Choson Period. Korean Stud. 30: 3–22
  44. ^ Oh, Su-chang (2006). "Economic Growth in P'yŏngan Province and the Development of Pyongyang in the Late Chosŏn Period" (PDF). Korean Studies. 30. University of Hawaii Press: 3–22. doi:10.1353/ks.2006.0025. S2CID 201766595.
  45. ^ Haboush JHK (1988), A Heritage of Kings: One Man's Monarchy in the Confucian World. Columbia University Press, pp. 88–9.
  46. ^ Haboush (1988) pp. 88--89
  47. ^ Korean Nobi
  48. ^ Rhee, Young-hoon; Yang, Donghyu. "Korean Nobi in American Mirror: Yi Dynasty Coerced Labor in Comparison to the Slavery in the Antebellum Southern United States" (PDF). Working Paper Series. Institute of Economic Research, Seoul National University. {{cite web}}: |archive-date= requires |archive-url= (help); Check date values in: |archive-date= (help)CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  49. ^ Nobi: Rescuing the Nation from Slavery
  50. ^ Lawson, Konrad M. (2005/04). "Nobi: Rescuing the Nation from Slavery". Muninn blog. Retrieved 6 September 2011. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)
  51. ^ Peterson, M. A. (2000). "Korean Slavery" (Document). Int. Forum Series David M. Kennedy Center Discussion Paper. {{cite document}}: Unknown parameter |url= ignored (help)
  52. ^ Peterson, Mark A. (2000). "Korean Slavery" (Document). David M. Kennedy Center for International Studies, Brigham Young University. {{cite document}}: External link in |publisher= (help); Unknown parameter |url= ignored (help); Unknown parameter |work= ignored (help)
  53. ^ Haboush (1988: 88); Ch'oe et al. (2000: 158)
  54. ^ Haboush (1988), pp. 88
  55. ^ Choe (2000), p. 158. Unfair quotation: the call to reference says "and often did", while Choe 2000, p158 says "but the amount was undoubtedly small".
  56. ^ Haboush, 1988: 89
  57. ^ Haboush (1988), p. 89
  58. ^ Jun SH & JB Lewis (2004), On double-entry bookkeeping in Eighteenth-century Korea: A consideration of the account books from two clan associations and a private academy. International Institute of Social History, Amsterdam, Netherlands (080626)
  59. ^ Jun (2004)
  60. ^ Jun et al. (2008).
  61. ^ Jun et al. (2008) p. ?
  62. ^ Ch'oe et al. (2000: 73).
  63. ^ Choe (2000), p. 73
  64. ^ 이중환, "총론" in 택리지, p. 355, quoted in translation in Choe et al. (2000: 162).
  65. ^ Yi Junghwan 이중환. From Chonglon 총론 (in Taekniji 택리지, p. 357). A longer English quotation, can be found in Choe (2000), p. 161--2
  66. ^ Haboush (1988: 78)
  67. ^ Haboush (1988), p. 78
  68. ^ Haboush JHK (2003), Versions and subversions: Patriarchy and polygamy in Korean narratives, in D Ko, JHK Haboush & JR Piggott (eds.), Women and Confucian Cultures in Premodern China, Korea and Japan. University of California Press, pp. 279-304.
  69. ^ Haboush (2003), pp. 279-304.
  70. ^ Haboush (1988: 88-89); Oh (2006)
  71. ^ Haboush (1988), pp. 88--89
  72. ^ Oh (2006)
  73. ^ 아틀라스 한국사 편찬위원회 (2004). 아틀라스한국사. 사계절. pp. 132–133. ISBN 8958280328.
  74. ^ (in Korean) Atlas (2004), pp.132--133
  75. ^ Ch'oe et al., 2000:7.
  76. ^ Choe (2000), p.7
  77. ^ 백석기 (1987). 웅진위인전기 #11 장영실. 웅진출판사. p. 56.
  78. ^ Baek, Seokgi 백석기 (1987). 웅진위인전기 #11 장영실 [Woongjin Ranked Biographies #11 Jang Yeong-sil] (in Korean). 웅진출판사 (Woongjin Publisher). p. 56.
  79. ^ Korea And The Korean People

Brokenlinks[edit]

  • Korean Nobi in American Mirror: Yi Dynasty Coerced Labor in Comparison to the Slavery in the Antebellum Southern United States. Was a working paper of Institute of Economic Research, Seoul National University. The link was Korean Nobi
  • Korea And The Korean People. The link was [1]
  • About Rank of Joseon Officials. Publisher: Kyujanggak Institute for Korean Studies (?). Not reachable from [2]. More details should be given.

References (Books-Journals)[edit]

Third Level References[edit]

Yet another References[edit]

These books are quoted somewhere in Wikipedia

  • Yi, Kil-sang (January 2006). Exploring Korean History through World Heritage. Academy of Korean Studies. Event occurs at 171. ISBN 9788971055519.
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