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<tristanian> hello all, i have a question if i may
<tristanian> i am working on an article on a person from Tristan da Cunha and am 
unsure what english wikipedia regards as "independent" sourcing
<iDangerMouse> Hi
<iDangerMouse> tristanian: Like books,
<iDangerMouse> Newspapers
<iDangerMouse> Magazines
<iDangerMouse> Anything newsworthy, to make your article notable
<tristanian> well the issue i am having is that Tristan da Cunha has only 270 people,
and only 6 surnames, so essentially us Tristanians are all related, although not as 
bad as Pitcairn Island
<revent> Ouch.
<iDangerMouse> Well if its newsworthy
<iDangerMouse> you can prove it
<tristanian> so would an article written by someone with the same surname as the subject 
be regarded as "independent" of the subject?
<iDangerMouse> From a book source or what so ever
<iDangerMouse> Books, newspapers etc
<iDangerMouse> Scholars work
<tristanian> we have an island newspaper of course
<iDangerMouse> Local news
<iDangerMouse> is acceptable
<BlastHardcheese> if it's a geographic place people aren't really going to care unless 
you're part of the tourism board or something, just don't repeat government press releases word-for-word
<tristanian> so would an article written by a fellow Tristanian who is not related by name, 
but is also possibly my sister, would that be regarded as independent sourcing?
<revent> BlastHardcheese, ...on a person from... :P
<iDangerMouse> tristanian: not really
<iDangerMouse> tristanian: whats the newspaper, needs to be verified
<iDangerMouse> And that news paper, whatever, has to be recognized
<revent> tristanian, If the person has only been covered by an island newspaper with a 
circulation of 270 people, no matter how many times, I'm sorry to tell you this but a lot 
of people are going to object on grounds of notability.
<tristanian> revent: I have heard that Wikipedia has something called bias
<revent> tristanian, There are, to be honest, many biases in the selection of subjects for 
articles on Wikipedia. Some are intentional, some are just due to what (volunteer) editors 
have been inclined to write about.
<tristanian> yes, i have heard about this bias and how it works, here on Tristan we 
experience this sort of bias as part of our every day life
<tristanian> from only seeing a ship to get off this rock every couple of months to get 
out into the wide world, like seriously, if we could get off this island we probably 
wouldn't sleep with our sisters, which is another thing that we feel bias on
<tristanian> so revent, I totally understand these biases and how they work
<tristanian> but even if i could get off this rock, i'd still sleep with my sister :>
<tristanian> bye all, thanks for help
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* marktraceur cocks head
<marktraceur> What the hell was that
<marktraceur> I'm not sure if he should get banned or be given a barnstar for radical honesty
<revent> marktraceur, Maybe she's hot.
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<tristanian> Hi again all, sorry, just wanted to share this video of my island, please enjoy it - 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvYfRiJQIX8 - bye
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