User:TShilo12/Bible verses

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Because it was going nowhere, I am completely reformulating this. I hope SimonP and -Ril- don't mind too much. I have boldly archived the moribund original formulation of this discussion here. Please feel free to alter this as necessary, but try to keep it within reasonable sight of the way I've proposed it unless you see some glaring flaw. Tomer TALK 00:32, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Statement of issue[edit]

Because there are widely different views of scripture and its importance, and widely varying views on the appropriate extent to which Wikipedia should represent and discuss those views, intractable arguments, harmful edit wars, highly contentious and ultimately fruitless VFDs (a shocking EIGHT of them) and all manner of unproductive and counterproductive "bad blood"-instilling activities have been ongoing for far too long.

Statement of purpose[edit]

This discussion aims to build consensus regarding to what extent Wikipedia should cover Bible verses.

Statement of scope[edit]

This discussion is not intended to determine policy. Any policy proposals, based on these discussions, should take place well after such discussion has rendered some positive outcomes. This discussion is not a vote. Previous votes have proven that polls of this sort demonstrate nothing, and ultimately end up doing more to establish bad feelings than to prevent them. This discussion is not a debate forum. Please keep discussion germane to the subject at hand. This discussion is not a place to rehash old quarrels. Let's start over with a clean slate. Repeating things that have been said previously is fine, but let's keep accusations and recriminations out of this. This is a clear case where we're never going to be able to move forward while facing backwards.

List of primary issues[edit]

  • Should articles exist for every single verse in "the Bible"?
    • What constitutes "the Bible"?
  • Should articles exist for only notable verses?
    • Who determines notability?