User:The Rambling Man/ERRORS/archive6

December 2018

Date	Section	Article	Notes	Resolved
1 December 2018	DYK	Renate Behle	Yet another promotion with a whole section unreferenced. Yet again the recordings (which are often in WolrdCat, Discogs, national libraries - in authority control that is). Always happy to make your stats better. It's referenced now, but better someone else checks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:58, 30 November 2018 (UTC) It's not about stats, it's about having a unverifiable article promoted via QPQ time after time, against DYK rules. Our readers should not be expected to go and find the relevant WorldCat, Discogs, national libraries, authority control information, that's not what the DYK rules say, nor is it sufficient for inline referencing.	Yes
		Construction Skills Certification Scheme	The claim is related to data which is nearly one year old, so it needs to be caveated with "in December 2017" or something. I fixed the article to that effect.	Yes
		Juma Butabika	"mentally unstable" is not mentioned at all in the article. Extreme, eccentric, excessive, brutal, psychopathic, but none of those are necessarily "unstable". Why not use a description that actually exists in the article rather than simply making one up?	Yes
	OTD	1988 Ordzhonikidze bus hijacking	The bus wasn't "with" thirty children, it was "carrying" thirty children, and that alleviates the ambiguity that the children were with the gunmen.... Plus, they "hijacked a bus ... and flew to Israel..." is a very odd construction... There was also a female school teacher on the bus as well... she didn't count? A little long, but changed to: Four armed men hijacked a bus carrying thirty schoolchildren and one teacher in Ordzhonikidze, Soviet Union (now Vladikavkaz in Russia), and were later given an Ilyushin Il-76 aircraft in exchange for the release of the hostages and ransom. Did they get a ransom and the plane or did they have to relinquish the ransom to get the plane? Your text suggests the latter, which seems odd. --Khajidha (talk) 12:48, 30 November 2018 (UTC)	Yes
	TFA	General	Why is there so much "white"space below the blurb and above the links to previous TFAs?	Yes
2 December 2018	OTD	Air raid on Bari	"18 ships and releasing one ship's" MOS -> 18/1, or eighteen/one. Having said that, article describes 25 "sunk" and 3 "total loss" in the table, so not sure where the 18 in the blurb is coming from. 18 might be a typo for 28. —howcheng {chat} 02:52, 2 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
	DYK	Caption	The article uses capital S for stock, e.g. image caption there says " original 1967 Stock was", so our caption should either follow that convention or the article should not capitalise. I note the target London Underground 2009 Stock (for instance) uses capitalisation.	Yes
		Mexico at the 1994 Winter Olympics	Removing the lead (which, after all, is repeated in the main text and expanded upon in the main body), this is actually a stub article. No disrespect to the nominator/reviewer at GAN, but sometimes articles just don't have enough ... oomph for GA let alone then qualify automatically for DYK...	Nope
3 December 2018	DYK	Singer Presents...Elvis	Is there a reason why the title of this article doesn't comply with MOS:ELLIPSIS, i.e. a space before and after the ellipsis? Also, why is the ellipsis even there? The article's sources don't seem to use it, and both regular Google search and book Google search seem to show results calling it "Singer Presents Elvis". I guess the question might have to go through RM rather than being boldly moved, so not sure where that leaves this error now.  — Amakuru (talk) 19:59, 2 December 2018 (UTC)	x
		Waffen-SS veterans in post-war Germany	The usual problem, non-English terms should reflect their common name on Wikipedia, so Wehrmacht and Waffen-SS should be italicised.	Yes
		M Train	" that can lead anywhere?" article says " can travel to the station of one's choosing" I don't think these are in any way equivalent, and since it's all fictional mind works, shouldn't this really be a quote, as if not, it's using Wikipedia voice to state a fact which clearly isn't true.	Yes
	OTD	Singer Presents...Elvis	Already slated to run at DYK, albeit with bad ellipsis, the GA issue bites once again... Not sure it is a "bad" ellipsis. MOS:ELLIPSIS states "Three dots are occasionally used to represent a pause in or suspense of speech, in which case the punctuation is retained in its original form", that's exactly what this usage is. The title would be spoken with a significant pause before the name. --Khajidha (talk) 16:29, 2 December 2018 (UTC) Got it. It needs to be pulled from OTD anyway... (see below). Reading the MOS again I think you are right in that there should still be spaces either side of the ellipsis, but it's rather confusing how the different sections of MOS:ELLIPSIS interact. Still doesn't need to be in both sections, though. --Khajidha (talk) 16:34, 2 December 2018 (UTC) Swapped out, as we didn't need the same article at DYK and OTD. Black Kite (talk) 22:46, 2 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Bhopal disaster	"worst industrial accident" against what criteria? By death toll would seem most likely, after all Chernobyl is an industrial accident which will exclude that vast region for decades or longer to come... (P.S. article says the leak started on 2 December...) Mmm. That links to the completely unsourced List of accidents and disasters by death toll although it is cited in the main article. Changing it to "...the biggest ever death toll in an industrial accident" is a bit clunky, though, and you've got stuff like this as well. I think running on the 3rd is OK, the main leak happened on that date. Black Kite (talk) 22:56, 2 December 2018 (UTC)	Not an error as it reflects published sources
		PlayStation (console)	No need for the "first generation" bit, it was just a Playstation, and until a subsequent one came out (which was called Playstation 2, so not even confusing names) it was inherently the "first generation"... Agreed, and the article makes it clear anyway, no need for confusion.	Yes
4 December 2018	DYK	Antonio Falzon	"known notable Maltese architect" notable? in what sense, Wikipedia sense? Words to avoid....	Yes
		German torpedo boat T23	Instead of meeting a non-notable boat, it met two other boats instead? "Interesting to a broad audience" is a key tenet of DYK.	No zzz
		Cameron's Seafood Market	"NBA basketball star" -> tautalogical, remove basketball, or expand NBA, but not both, seriously.	Yes
		General	Two Holocaust hooks back-to-back in one set? I'm all against suppressing such hooks, but two, next to one another, in the same set? Really poor. We switched to two sets a day and the second hook was in the wrong place. It has been moved to a later prep. Yoninah (talk) 00:53, 4 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes, moved.
		Robyn Bolam	"at age 15" - British English applies, we say "at the age of 15" or "aged 15", but never, never, ever, ever "at age 15". I'm confused what's going on here. This one and the others seem to be in queue 2, for the 5th, not tomorrow. It's the queue 1 set, with your Kevin Beattie article and friends, that seems to be next up.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:34, 3 December 2018 (UTC) Amakuru DYK have gone "two sets per day", as if one "set" wasn't enough. So we're now working out twice as many errors per day. Apologies that this wasn't clear, DYK is a law unto itself. See also: Cowboy, Quality control, Root cause analysis.... (HUMOUR)	Yes
		Alastair MacLennan (obstetrician)	Definitely no need to repeat his wife's surname here.	Yes
	OTD	Operation Trident (1971)	Repetitive blurb (ships ... ships) perhaps just "... against the Pakistan Navy at Karachi..." Plus use of "highly" is questionably POV here, "successful" will be just fine on its own. Also the blurb is confusing on who had no casualties. "... sinking three ships with no casualties" makes it sound like the ships sank with no casualties. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:05, 4 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Dianne Feinstein	"the murder" is piped to a redirect. Plus, usually past tense, so "became" not "becomes". Plus, date is unreferenced in the article. Ref added. —howcheng {chat} 16:47, 3 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
	TFP	McClure Tunnel	No need for full stop after Steve Lyon, it's a fragment. Fixed Ealdgyth - Talk 14:12, 3 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
5 December 2018	DYK	LeCompte maneuver	"switch" is piped to a redirect. It's also an orphan...	Yes
		Helen Hays	Caption doesn't need to say where she is. Well, the hook is all about her work on Great Gull island so perhaps it's more relevant than if she was at a shopping centre in Swindon?  — Amakuru (talk) 22:06, 4 December 2018 (UTC) Not really. The picture is of her. She might as well be in Swindon. There's nothing verifying she was on Great Gull Island when the photo was taken in any case, just some co-ordinates that anyone could have entered. If we adopt that attitude, how do we even know it's Helen Hays? There's nothing verifying that is Helen Hays, just some words that anyone could have entered. Fish+Karate 10:47, 5 December 2018 (UTC) I think the actual point here is that her location is unnecessary in the caption. Concision! I think the location is relevant. Information! Fish+Karate 12:46, 5 December 2018 (UTC) She's in room somewhere, could be anywhere. If we see her with one of her marvellous terns, I'd buy it, right now, she could be in Slough in that image. As I said, if you don't trust the co-ordinates, then why aren't you concerned whether or not it's actually Helen Hays? Fish+Karate 12:54, 5 December 2018 (UTC) I can easily verify it's her using other images. It doesn't really look like Slough or Swindon though. It looks like a rustic cabin in a rural place (e.g. Great Gull Island). I can even see her rucksack in the background, as well as her book collection and radio that keep her going through the long months on the island. Between that and the fact that the Flickr image says it's there, and has no reason to lie, I'd still say it's somewhat interesting information.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:59, 5 December 2018 (UTC) Well, here is "Helen" in the same room on "Gull Island", but perhaps the Sierra Club are in on this as well. See slides [1] and [2]. 14:16, 5 December 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fish and karate (talk • contribs) I think you're getting confused Karate and Fish, I never really doubted the veracity of the claim seriously, I simply think it's unnecessary for a succinct caption. After all, it's a picture of her. That's it. Maybe time to step away from this one, it's clearly touched some sensitivies which I didn't intend to do. Agree that the fact that this picture was taken on Great Gull Island is irrelevant and does not need to be in the caption. --Khajidha (talk) 19:35, 5 December 2018 (UTC)	Nope
		General	Two Air Force hooks in one set? Nein dank. I've swapped it with one in Prep 2.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:16, 4 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		John Hanger (banker)	In this context, it's "Governer" not "governer". There can be only one. Per MOS:JOBTITLES this looks like a "Richard Nixon was the president of the United States" example so I suspect it's OK.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:22, 4 December 2018 (UTC) Well the article capitalises it in a similar usage, so we should at least be consistent here.... Not really. The article uses it in the "unmodified" form mentioned at JOBTITLES, Richard Nixon was President of the United States. But the hook has the word "the" in it though, which changes it to the "modified" form with a lower case title.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:26, 5 December 2018 (UTC) Ok, fair enough. Looks odd, should probably drop "the" and capitalise G, but meh.	Meh North America1000 14:39, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
		Your Call Football	If this is the title of a game, this should be in italics, like Monopoly or Jet Set Willy.	Yes
	OTD	Krampusnacht	Our article consistently italicises this observance.	Yes
6 December 2018	DYK	Neil Etheridge	"first Filipino and first Southeast Asian" well if he's the first Southeast Asian, it goes without saying he's the first Filipino. Perhaps "... that Filipino international footballer ... is the first Southeast Asian..."? See extensive discussion on this point at Template:Did you know nominations/Neil Etheridge. The nominator originally had it "first Filipino". I would leave it at that. Yoninah (talk) 19:59, 5 December 2018 (UTC) See extensive discussion at .... the main page where no extensive discussion will be considered. Let's just focus on the readers here. I'm currently looking at this and as the article says he was born and raised in the United Kingdom and his father is from the UK and his mother the Philippines, might British-Filipino be more accurate to use? Otherwise the hook could be read by some as indicating he is from the Philippines. Perhaps something like "... that British-Filipino footballer Neil Etheridge is the first Southeast Asian to play in the Premier League?" Mifter (talk) 22:45, 5 December 2018 (UTC) If that's what it says in the article then yes, it's better phrased than than the current hook which is tautalogical. The article barely talks about it (though one of the source's titles is "4 Fil-British players join football team"). I raised it because when I read the hook I thought he was from the Philippines until I clicked through and read the actual article. Mifter (talk) 23:09, 5 December 2018 (UTC) Then do something about it. Respectfully, that's why I'm here. Mifter (talk) 23:14, 5 December 2018 (UTC) Indeed, respectfully, and yet the red box says nothing has changed. That is a fair point. There will be a change, in some form, prior to the set going live as I fully agree that the current hook is unnecessarily duplicative. Mifter (talk) 23:32, 5 December 2018 (UTC) I've tweaked the hook similarly to what was suggested above. Mifter (talk) 23:44, 5 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Karuka	No need for "will" in the hook, they either do or they don't, i.e. "entire households move upland"	Yes
		Sophie Koch	"became internationally known" -> "became known internationally"	Yes
		Tree of Life – Or L'Simcha Congregation	"ended up merging" what? Why not just "merged"? Since when did "ended up" become encyclopedic tone? "Merged" is fine by me (page creator). Yoninah (talk) 19:59, 5 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Dorothy Vredenburgh Bush	"call roll" what does that mean?! From what I can gather from a Google search for "democratic convention call roll", it should be roll call. I'm not sure why the 1991 article that it references uses the term call roll because it doesn't make sense. SL93 (talk) 19:51, 5 December 2018 (UTC) This could be linked to Voting methods in deliberative assemblies. Yoninah (talk) 19:59, 5 December 2018 (UTC) Well it's still not clear what it actually means. We're not all American. Even that article says "roll call". I think that we should just switch the two words around and maybe just add a short mention of what it means per TRM's suggestion. SL93 (talk) 20:03, 5 December 2018 (UTC) As Yoninah pointed out, it is explained at Voting_methods_in_deliberative_assemblies#Recorded_vote. The action in a "roll call" is to "call the roll."-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:13, 5 December 2018 (UTC) So at least it needs linking. I have no idea what that means. We don't deposit jargon on the main page without explanation. It's a way of voting in an assembly, instead of a secret ballot, everyone's name is called out, they respond yea or nay and the votes are recorded.-- Pawnkingthree (talk) 20:39, 5 December 2018 (UTC) But that's not clear from the hook at all. It's meaningless to most of us. I've added a wikilink to Voting_methods_in_deliberative_assemblies#Recorded_vote. To "call roll" or "call the roll" is one way to describe the physical act taking attendance or registering votes (e.g. John Smith called roll) while roll call can be used to describe the event (i.e. on an agenda). Mifter (talk) 22:56, 5 December 2018 (UTC) Good. I think the overall point is that this "calling roll" is very much a US thing, we don't do it in the UK, it sounds like a load of old bollocks, and yet it's a DYK thing. Point is to make it accessible to all of us, not just the US readers going "mmmm yeah, calling the roll, awesome!".	Yes
		Memoriale della Shoah	Overlinked hook, six links? No need to link Milan, probably no need to link Holocaust Agreed. The nominator was actually piping the last link on Holocaust to Holocaust in Italy. Yoninah (talk) 19:59, 5 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Bryn Davies (footballer)	The source doesn't say he was professional. It's certainly unclear in 1938 whether or not all players were fully professional, so to make this claim is pushing it a little. I know (personally) players for Ipswich who played decades later and who weren't fully professional. I see that the source says Era: Professional on the top, but I don't think the website is a reliable source because it is someone's personal website, unless we can verify that Tim Hodge is well known in that field of research per reliable sources. SL93 (talk) 20:08, 5 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Disappearing World	"that the producer of the television series Disappearing World " there have been numerous producers of the show, so it's just one producer's opinion. Changed to "one of the producers"  — Amakuru (talk) 09:14, 6 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Siti Qomariyah	"deputy, successor, and predecessor " since when do we start using italics here? See encyclopedia. And can someone please tell us all what a "regent" in Indonesia is? Link it.	Yes
8 December 2018	DYK	2018 Zürich ePrix	The article says it's the first "circuit" race, not "motor race" in general. Indeed, hillclimbing races have taken place regularly.	Yes
		Clairmarais aerodrome	(a) what makes the source used to verify the hook WP:RS? Looks like a self-published ("draft"!) piece of work. Also, not seeing where it says that " by Jagdgeschwader 26 during 1940 and 1941", it appears to be "I./JG 26 (Jun-Nov 41)"?	Yes
		Jack Brooksbank	Such a rambling and disinteresting hook which basically says "X didn't happen because X doesn't happen". More importantly, it is a non-sequitur. The source mentions that he would not receive a title, and it mentions that there is no precedence, but it doesn't say the former fact is a result of the latter. In fact, the reason he didn't get a title is because the Queen didn't give him one. Nothing more and nothing less. I suggest we pull this and come up with something better.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:25, 7 December 2018 (UTC)	NOPE
	OTD	Rōhatsu	Firstly the target article consistently italicises this Japanese language observance, and also the ref used to cite the date is no longer functional for that purpose. The other reference in that paragraph was good enough for that. —howcheng {chat} 00:18, 9 December 2018 (UTC)	Late, but yes
		Paul Kruger	Volksraad should be in italics.	Late, but yes
		Pan Am Flight 214	"hit by a lightning strike" is tautalogical, just "hit by lightning" or "struck by lightning" would be succinct and clearer English. Not a preference, a reduction in redundancy.	Late, but yes (also, not really an error; just a language preference)
9 December 2018	DYK	French submarine Fulton	Interestingly the "attack" phrasing is used exclusively, once in the lead, and is unreferenced. The title of the article doesn't include "attack", not sure why the hook does.	Yes
		Nyi Kan-Kaung	Why "some" four years? Why not just encyclopedic phrasing, such as "four years"?	Yes
		Bailey Bridge (Walton on Trent)	There's nothing explicit in the article substantiating "more than 70 years". The flood of 1947 occurred and at some undefined point after that, a temporary bridge was erected, but the article does not state when. This is a basic failure of QPQ because the hook is not stated clearly with inline reference(s) at the end of the relevant sentence(s).	Looks fixed
		Caption	Avoid starting setences or fragments with a number.	Yes
		Dennis Albaugh	According to the article, it's "about 150" not precisely 150. And as this is an encyclopedia, we really shouldn't be using nicknames like "Chevy".	Yes
		Meloe franciscanus	Very peculiar hook, "trick a male bee"? Trick it why? To do something important? It's completely undefined and unclear.	Yes
		Miluj blížneho svojho	Actually, reading the article, the statement didn't "need" to be censored, the broadcaster "chose" to censor it, in the face of legal advice that it was just fine. NOW SITTING AT THE OTHER PLACE.	Yes
		Train 18	It doesn't mention that it's the "newest" train, nor does it even confirm that it's actually in service at this time. NOW SITTING AT THE OTHER PLACE.	Yes
	OTD	Douglas Engelbart	"computer mouse" is piped to a redirect back to itself...	yes
10 December 2018	DYK	Ugaritic texts	"epic poems" is piped to a redirect. Plus it's just one book's opinion that these specific three are "the most famous", so should be "amongst the best-known..."	Yes
		Gern Nagler	"convinced" is still far too euphemistic here. They threatened him with a lawsuit. That's not "convincing" that's "threatening".	NOPE
		French submarine Aigrette	The article says the hydrogen exploded, not the battery. I went back to the source and per two services' machine translation, it looks like parts of the battery exploded due to the leak. I have updated the article to reflect that. Mifter (talk) 21:25, 9 December 2018 (UTC)	See Comment
		Sharice Davids	Two unreferenced sections, contrary to DYK rules.	yes
	OTD	De motu corporum in gyrum	Date not referenced. As it is an "Old Style" date, is it really correct to have it on the current ("New Style") 10 December?--Khajidha (talk) 21:40, 9 December 2018 (UTC) I had noticed that too, but since I couldn't find anything in "the rules" about styles of dates, I didn't remark on it. Normally things get listed on whatever date is in the article, with the Gregorian date taking precedence over the Julian, with certain exceptions like Gunpowder Plot because Guy Fawkes Day is on the Julian date. —howcheng {chat} 04:23, 10 December 2018 (UTC)	yes
		Superman	Date not referenced.	yes
11 December 2018	DYK	Caption	None of that detail is necessary (or verifiable), just say "Ridder Arena in 2013"	Yes
		Edgecliff (Winnetka, Illinois)	"a landmarked estate", what does this actually mean? It means it has landmark status. Yoninah (talk) 11:14, 10 December 2018 (UTC) I don’t know what that means. Is it an American thing? According to the article, it was declared a landmark by the "Winnetka Landmark Preservation Commission", which doesn't seem to be a notable organisation. There's no evidence that it's a National Historic Landmark or anything similar. I suggest that terminology be dropped, since it's confusing and there's no suitable article to wikilink.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:31, 10 December 2018 (UTC)  Removed the word "landmarked" from the lede and the hook.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:14, 10 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Rhythm Inside (Loïc Nottet song)	It wasn't for "Rhythm Inside", it was for a "dance-based reinterpretation" of that song, actually called "Alice in Nightmareland" which actually would help the hook make more sense because in the words of Roy Chubby Brown, "Alice, Alice, who the ... is Alice?"... Unsure on this, the identity of "Alice" is clear as it's pipe linked; can you give me a rewording to use? Fish+Karate 12:32, 10 December 2018 (UTC) I think the main point was that wasn't for "Rhythm Inside", it was for a different track.	NOPE
		Farmer Review of the UK Construction Labour Model	"modernise or die" should be in quotes as it's not literal and the article consistently either capitalises it or quotes it. I have made a request at WP:ERRORS and also tweaked the article to include a link to the report / review itself. EdChem (talk) 21:10, 11 December 2018 (UTC)	NOPE
		Ceintures de Lyon	Too much is unreferenced, this should have failed QPQ.	NOPE
	OTD	Caption	It's just "Gene" and no need to relink (and format differently) lunar rover as it's already in the blurb. He was known primarily as Eugene at the time, the Gene thing is a modern affectation. I already delinked lunar rover following a report on some other errors page I found.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Shuliavka Republic	Article says the uprising started on the 12th and went through to the 16th, so started OTD tomorrow. Moved this to the queue for Dec 12th, put in a Salvadoran Civil War one instead.	Swapped out
		Apollo 17	The blurb is doubly repetitive in short order, probably doesn't need "the last Apollo moon mission" or at least not termed in such a way as to repeat Apollo and moon...	Yes
		Bernard Madoff	" a $50 billion Ponzi scheme" - the article uses a figure of $64.8 billion.	Yes
		Big Mama Thornton	Date of birth unverifiable.	Referenced
12 December 2018	DYK	2016 Maryland shooting spree	Be consistent and include the years inside the links or outside the links, but not a mixture, looks poor.	Yes
		Her Strut	I don't think the lyrics were accused of anything, perhaps Seger was accused of something, but definitely not the lyrics. Looking at the cited source, it looks like the song itself was criticized. Best, Mifter (talk) 06:29, 12 December 2018 (UTC) But I think the point is that a song can't be accused of something, only a person can be accused. Your alternative term "criticized" is a good one, Mifter, so I've changed it to that. As an aside, I find the word "although" a little odd here... Are lyrics inspired by an adminiration for Jane Fonda automatically exempt from being mysoginistic? The two things seem unrelated.  — Amakuru (talk) 08:04, 12 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Melvin Cohn	Please link " the atomic bombing of Hiroshima?" more appropriately, e.g. "Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki".	Yes
		Prunus kansuensis	It's funny that we finally get a translation but yet nothing, not one glimmer of hope, that anyone has heard of this thing. It's doubly tragic because if you don't know what the pits you were expecting to be there weren't actually there, the ultimate conlcusion is: WHO CARES ABOUT SOMETHING I'VE NEVER HEARD OF HAVING SOMETHING I DON'T CARE ABOUT WHICH IS REFERRED TO AS SOMETHING ELSE I DON'T CARE ABOUT WHICH MIGHT SOUND LIKE THE FIRST THING I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT. Bravo, the worst DYK possibly ever. I actually quite like it. And surely when pitted against all other dull DYKs, this one isn't the total pits?  — Amakuru (talk) 10:22, 12 December 2018 (UTC) So, just because something else is "wronger", we should let this wrong slide? Seems to me your comment shows that many, many more DYKs should be failed. The entire project is broken. It has devolved into a pointless "I've got more main page credits than you" dick-measuring contest. --Khajidha (talk) 19:16, 12 December 2018 (UTC)	NOPE
		Chen Chuangtian	"lab"? We should be using encyclopedic tone/language (laboratory). And why is the sole production of a non-notable chemical "interesting to a broad audience"? I've fixed the lab thing.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:14, 12 December 2018 (UTC)	partial
		Ojos de Mar	No need for the comma in the very odd linking target link.	Yes
	OTD	Battle of Nineveh (627)	Date not referenced. Yes it is. Battle of Nineveh (627) § Battle, first sentence: On 12 December, Rhahzadh deployed his forces into three masses and attacked.[11] Once we got all the dates in a coherent format.	Not an error
		Oaks explosion	So to say it's the worst is fine, but that need substantiation, so include "killing 361 people" or similar.	Yes
		Xi'an Incident	Two links which are piped to redirects.	Yes
13 December 2018	DYK	French submarine Regnault	Hook says "eighteenth century" article says "nineteenth century", QPQ fail. Fixed QPQ, but we're still waiting for an admin to fix the typo. L293D (☎ • ✎) 23:51, 12 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Dhāraṇī	No need for capital D unless, of course, the article is wrong.	Yes
		Rage in Peace	The video game was loosely inspired, per the article, that's quite an important modifier.	Yes
		Unbibium	"that the unknown element unbibium could be found occurring" if it was "unknown" how could it be "found"? Was it "as yet undiscovered"?	Yes
	OTD	Wojciech Jaruzelski	Unreferenced (and tagged) section of awards/decorations. Replaced with 1960 Ethiopian coup attempt. —howcheng {chat} 18:02, 12 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		2001 Indian Parliament attack	Blurb says 12 deaths, article says 14. Well, the article lead says 14 - sourced to one source that doesn't actually say 14 anywhere - it just enumerates the victims and includes the five gunmen. In the article body - it says 14 were killed but the source [3] only says "at least 12". Whatever else, the issue with the BBC source saying "at least 12" being used to support text of "14" needs fixing - I don't have the subject knowledge to search for further sources to resolve the issue. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:08, 12 December 2018 (UTC) Moved The Hindu reference out of the lead and to the article body to support the statement. —howcheng {chat} 18:02, 12 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
	ITN	Caption	"Christmas Market " no need for the capital M on market. It's not a proper noun here.	yes
14 December 2018	DYK	Wolfgang Rennert	Odd sentence construction, last clause appears to be left dangling. And is it interesting to a broad audience? Forgive me oddity, but now you removed the one thing for the broad audience, that he was a conductor from the West who was invited to the East and stayed. The present hook doesn't even contain the word opera, until we get to the houses. The key fact in the original hook was "conducted world premieres of operas". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 14 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes. Removed the last clause.
		Statcheck	"peer-reviewed" is piped to a redirect. And " used the software program" is dreadful phrasing, "package" is in the article, rather than "program". Or drop "software"...	Yes
		People's Redemption Council	In the blurb, no reason not to respect the accent in "d'état" which is used by that specific article exclusively.	Yes
		AMES Type 80	"Master Radar Station layout" section is unreferenced.	Yes
		Roz Young	I've never heard of "women's pages", is this a USEng thing? I note the article refers to something it calls "Women's Pages" like "Yellow Pages" but perhaps the hook needs to link the term or rephrase it into something commonly appreciated by our demographic. Also, bibliography lacks adequate referencing. I've linked to society reporting#History as that's the only place where we have coverage of women's pages. Haven't looked at the bibliography though.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:58, 13 December 2018 (UTC) Needs to be pulled, as awards section is also under-referenced.	Yes. Pulled and replaced.
		Qerim Sadiku	"Albanian Catholic saint" is a sea of blue.	Yes
		Estadio Jesús Martínez "Palillo"	"Olympic field hockey" is an Easter egg link to "Field hockey at the 1968 Summer Olympics" (as opposed to something which I'd expected, like Field hockey at the Summer Olympics )	Yes
	OTD	1918 United Kingdom general election	"British women were able to vote for the first time" actually, just those over 30, and also "all men over 21", including poor ones. Yes, but the enfranchisement of women is the more noteworthy part of the election, even if it's just a subset. —howcheng {chat} 03:01, 14 December 2018 (UTC) But the blurb is wrong, it was only British women over 30 who could vote, not "British women" per se. This actually wasn't very easy to say succinctly, but I have attempted it with: In the 1918 United Kingdom general election women over thirty were permitted to vote, making it the first British election with female voters.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:35, 14 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Muntadhar al-Zaidi	"threw his shoes" is piped to a redirect (and where I come, "shoeing" is definitely not about throwing shoes). And that quote was only as he threw his second shoe... Bush shoeing incident is now the bold article (no comment on the word "shoeing"). Also, I don't think that we need to get that specific about the sequence of events. —howcheng {chat} 03:01, 14 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
	TFA	SY Aurora's drift	" Ross Sea section" is piped to a redirect. fixed, twice --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:38, 14 December 2018 (UTC) Thanks, but not fixed in the main page blurb which needs an admin. I've actually moved the Ross Sea party page back to its previous home as there didn't seem much reason for it to have been moved, so this is fixed.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:40, 14 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
15 December 2018	DYK	A Scary Time	It shouldn't be a capital "I" in the quote.	Yes
		Super League XXIV	"From the start of the 2019 season ... Super League XXIV... " well "Super League XXIV" is the 2019 season, so the former should be pipelinked to Super League XXIV and the later should be "the Super League", i.e. "that from the start of the 2019 season, the Super League will be adopting...." And in any case, we'd never have "the" in front of "Super League XXIV".	Sort of
		Purv Pullen	Easter egg link, if you want quirky, put it in the quirky slot, but worse than that, the character's name was Cheeta, not Cheetah. And I don't see these appearances noted in the filmography at all. Indeed, Pullen/Birdbath isn't mentioned in the Cheeta article at all. Are we even sure this is true? IMDB don't list it as one of his films. It is in the source given though,[4] as well as another source,[5] and I think on page 128 of [6], all of which name the character as "Cheetah". Perhaps the "Cheeta" spelling only came with later films? Seems like probably this one is OK, although arguably the name of the article should be Dr. Birdbath if that is his common stage name.  — Amakuru (talk) 16:47, 14 December 2018 (UTC) @Amakuru: I moved the page from Dr. Birdbath because he had film roles before he took on that stage name. And I also spotted the Cheeta/Cheetah discrepancy, but the Cheeta article does offer the alternative spelling. Yoninah (talk) 00:01, 16 December 2018 (UTC)	Mostly
		MVS TV	I don't understand "the pay television service over Channel 51 " should that be "on Channel 51"? or "provided over Channel 51"? And why is "Channel" capitalised? isn't it just a "channel"?	Yes
		Fernando Albán Salazar	United Nations should be inside that piped link to Human Rights Commissioner.	Yes
		Konin Lakes	Blurb is confusingly written as it appears to be interpretable as meaning that just six fish (not six species of fish) are now there. The article prose kind of half-and-half deals with it "include three species of bryozoan, three crustaceans, seven molluscs and at least six species of fish.", but I guess it would be optimal to be something like "include three species of bryozoan, three of crustaceans, seven of molluscs and at least six species of fish."... I'd say right now, word of the day, it's ambiguous. Oh, I'm really sorry... I thought that the problem was that the species had all been lumped in together, and that Gatoclass had already fixed it. Totally misread this. I've now fixed it as you suggest, so it will be correct for 45 minutes 🤨  — Amakuru (talk) 11:16, 15 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Solar storm of August 1972	"accidentally" is very curious wording here, of course we aren't sure of the motivations of solar storms, it may have been deliberate, but more likely, it was just a result of physics, so as the article puts it, it caused them to "spontaneously" explode. But even then, reading the article, it's clear that it was never a definitive causality, just that it was "most likely", so Wikipedia stating it as fact is inappropriate.	Yes
		King's Cross St Pancras tube station	Mildly perplexed why we opted to translate "most used" (an objective measure, based on passenger footfall in and out of the station) into "busiest" which has subjective undertones and isn't even used in the target article. It's not used in the target article, but is the name of the list page. List of busiest London Underground stations.  — Amakuru (talk) 17:23, 14 December 2018 (UTC)	Nope
		Point of Graves Burial Ground	A couple of inline dispute tags, but more importantly, I'm not seeing how our readers can make the link between the quirky hook and information in the article relating to it "sat almost directly on a point of land". I suppose we could direct our readers to the nomination page for more ample clarification, but that doesn't seem to be what we should be doing to help readers understand material on the main page.	Pulled
	OTD	Zamenhof Day	More than half of the lead is unreferenced. It turns out most of that was really old. I updated the article, deleting the unsourced content. —howcheng {chat} 18:44, 14 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
16 December 2018	DYK	Hakea pulvinifera	Lacks any clue about what this species actually is, a spider, a sea anenome, an orchid? No idea from the picture either. Is this what we call clickbait? Isn't the whole of DYK meant to be click bait? For my next one: ... that a very interesting article awaits if you just click this link? I've called it a shrub. Bring me a shrubbery!  — Amakuru (talk) 11:24, 15 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Rūdolfs Pērle	"sent to the front", well non-experts will have no clue, and non-non-experts will just be thinking "which front"?	Yes
		Sexy Zone (song)	"14.4 years" who has ever described an "average age" of a group of people to one decimal place? Seriously? The source. And the reason the decimal place matters is because there was a previous Japanese boy band with an average age of 14.6 years. Gatoclass (talk) 05:48, 16 December 2018 (UTC) Whether the source thinks it matters is immaterial, is it of interest to our readers? No, because nobody cares about the average age to one decimal place of a band. I view it as more accurate to include the entire figure, rather than rounding, the latter of which some would then likely consider to be an error (e.g. "the source doesn't say 14, it says 14.4"). As such, I don't view this as an actual error. North America1000 07:32, 17 December 2018 (UTC) No, it's not of interest to a broad audience. The "average age to one decimal place" is immaterial to the fact being expressed. Errors include failures to meet due process in selection for the main page, this is a bright line example of such.	Nope
		Murder stone	Why "Great Britain" when the article says "United Kingdom" and doesn't mention "Great Britain" once? They're not the same, you know that, right?	Yes
		Pierre Payssé	Since we usually link association football to avoid confusion for our US brethren, we should certainly do so here. P.S. I'm not calling anyone's competence into question here, but did anyone read the article? It's baffling. Ah, good, so you can explain "Payssé won both the Individual all-around, 5 events and Individual all-around, 6 events competitions at the 1906 Intercalated Games in Athens, Greece". And which "football"? For goodness sake... Huzzah!	Nope
		Industrial Relations Court of Australia	Shambolic wording, should be "... that the existence of the Industrial Relations Court of Australia was so brief that X described it as "the tide went ..." Further tweaked to address the capitalization/punctuation issue referred to in the "Resolved" column. Gatoclass (talk) 21:53, 16 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes, although horrific capitalisation and punctuation
		Coscinasterias muricata	It splits by binary fission, like EVERY OTHER CREATURE WHO DOES THAT. Nothing interesting at all, like saying "did you know that mauve is a colour?". I initially thought the same myself, but I'm sure there are plenty of people who don't know what "binary fission" is and so this gives them a chance to read about it. Gatoclass (talk) 05:56, 16 December 2018 (UTC) No, this is not interesting to a broad audience. At all.	Nope
		Library of Alexandria	"near-perfect accuracy" is POV/OR. And not mentioned in the article in such terms. Stop making stuff up to appear in an encyclopedia's voice.	Yes
17 December 2018	DYK	Max Rose (politician)	Bare url, fundamental QPQ failure.	Yes
	OTD	1970 Polish protests	Not sure I can see verification for the events described on the given date. Reference added. —howcheng {chat} 02:30, 17 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
18 December 2018	DYK	Wang Guangying	The article makes it clear that this is likely to be the first time this epithet was used in public. QPQ fail.	Yes
		Serra antwren	"detected" is most peculiar here. According to the source, they weren't "detected", they were actually observed and "collected". QPQ fail. I've changed it to "found"	Yes
		Sharon Dyall	The article starts by italicising Sharon, so that should either be observed in the hook, or fixed. I have no idea why that's been done. Any clues? Also it talks about her writing the "Swedish lyrics" in Frozen, I've seen that film about 100 times, maybe more, I don't remember any Swedish lyrics. She's also not mentioned in Frozen (soundtrack). Does this really mean she wrote the lyrics for the Swedish translation of the Frozen soundtrack? Who knows? I removed the anomalous italicization as there were no other instances of it on her page. --Khajidha (talk) 19:11, 17 December 2018 (UTC) The whole article needs a grammar clean up, I think the author is not fully fluent in English. "On her career as an actress and singer, she is also working as a dubbing director at Sun Studio and Dubberman studio." Does that mean she has worked as a dubbing director while also acting or that she has quit acting and is now a dubbing director? --Khajidha (talk) 19:14, 17 December 2018 (UTC) Which version of Frozen is the hook talking about? I imagine this kind of thing would have been covered at QPQ, perhaps this needs to be pulled back to nominations while this is resolved? I'm guessing that the sentence is supposed to mean that she supplied new lyrics for the songs when the movie was dubbed into Swedish. --Khajidha (talk) 19:27, 17 December 2018 (UTC) That's what I'd also guess, but it's not what the hook says. Can anyone confirm if our suspicions are correct, and if so, fix the hook accordingly please? Most sources say she "wrote the Swedish lyrics" but I've found a source where someone is interviewing her, where they describe it as translating the song lyrics. So have amended accordingly.  — Amakuru (talk) 23:29, 17 December 2018 (UTC) AHA! I've figured out the point of the italicization! Apparently this is a Swedish convention for indicating which forename a person uses. Compare Sharon Dyall with Paul McCartney (both are Swedish versions). --Khajidha (talk) 19:32, 17 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		Jiraiya	"has been called "the Tom of Finland of Japan"" nope, not once. Both sources are different ("... kind of a Tom of Finland for the Asian market ..." and "... the "Tom of Finland" for the Land of the Rising Sun ..."), but neither say what the hook says which, in quotes, indicates verbatim quotation. QPQ fail. Latterly noted at another place.	Yes
		Blue Origin landing platform ship	Bare url again. QPQ fail. And prose, e.g. " ... increase the likelihood that a scheduled launch can be launched on schedule ...", really? I'm not expecting FA, or even GA, but this is simply not what an encyclopedia should be featuring on its main page.	Yes
		Caption/Zu den heiligen Engeln	"The church in 2011" which church? The hook seems odd to me, shouldn't "the church" be linked to the article about the church rather than "the new parish"? First was the parish, then the church, the article is about both. If you have a better wording feel free. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 17 December 2018 (UTC) The article is about the church, so it should link the church. The article is about the parish and the church. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:51, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
		Disappearance of Heather Elvis	The hook is tragically disappointing tabloid clickbait sensationalism and quite irrelevant to the disappearance of the individual in question. Not to mention a clumsy, confusing construction. I know we can't have "... that five years ago today, Elvis left the building and was never seen again?" but honestly, this suggestion really just seems an attempt to find something lurid about the lover and his wife, no the subject in question. Also interesting because the individuals in question have offered genuine concerns over their children's safety, yet here we go on the main page of Wikipedia making some titivating claim which really is completely inappropriate. Latterly noted at another place.	Yes, changed
		2XMM J160050.7–514245	The article consistently capitalises "Gamma ray", and while this may be interesting to the experts, this will leave most others cold unless the information in the article which substantiates the interest, i.e. "the first Gamma-ray burst progenitor candidate in the Milky Way galaxy".
		Jack Copeland (surgeon)	"successfully implanted the Jarvik 7 artificial heart as a bridge to transplantation" I don't understand what this means. "a bridge to transplantation"? Does it mean something like "as a predecessor to heart transplantation"? All the sources in the article use "bridge", it's pretty much the standard term for this kind of operation. Gatoclass (talk) 03:04, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
		HMS Latona	Our article calls it a ship of the line, and without it linked, how do we really understand the significance of a fifth-rate frigate "rescuing" a ship of the line? I don't think our readers (our "broad audience") are naval experts, and ships rescue ships all the time around the world and have done since the advent of ships. What makes this special?
	OTD	Seigneurial system of New France	Lead far too short. Replaced with Land speed record. —howcheng {chat} 00:24, 18 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes
		SCORE (satellite)	According to the linked Communications satellite article, "The first artificial satellite used solely to further advances in global communications was a balloon named Echo 1..." not this fella. It was the first in the modern meaning, i.e. to relay information, so I've tweaked the hook. Actually, it was the first, period. Echo 1 was launched in August 1960, 20 months after SCORE. The next paragraph in Communications satellite is about SCORE. I have swapped the positions of the two paragraphs so that they go in chronological order. —howcheng {chat} 00:19, 18 December 2018 (UTC)	Yes Not an error
		Tunisian Revolution	"nearly 23 years" his article has him ruling from "7 November 1987 – 14 January 2011" which looks like c. 23.25 years (per Japanese band boy convention). I know that's still "nearly 23" but I guess in my version of English, "nearly" always means "not quite" rather than "either a little bit more than or a little bit less than..."	Yes
		Edwin Howard Armstrong	Death date is referenced by the inline cite, but not the birth date.	Yes
	TFP	Kob	I think we could do better than a single sentence. Remarkably the associated article is reasonably well written and has citations around some key facts, so the TFP blurb could afford to be expanded by a few sentences.	Yes
22 December 2018	DYK	Laguna Socompa	Our article uses the spelling variant Stromatoliths. Hook should do the same. Article also does not clearly say they continue to "still grow" --- Coffeeandcrumbs
		French submarine Laplace	Why is this article not called Laplace (submarine)? I noticed several other articles are named in this unusual manner. Was there some strange consensus? --- Coffeeandcrumbs @Coffeeandcrumbs: That's something to ask at WT:WikiProject Ships. —howcheng {chat} 01:22, 24 December 2018 (UTC)