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Marie Bracquemond[edit]

To-do
  • add influence of Monet (her fave), Renoir, and Degas to lead
    • Note: her watercolors look very similar to those of Monet's in the Rouen collection
  • Check Philippe Burty
  • Follow Garb’s lead and discuss work in relation to other women impressionists and how her career trajectory was vastly different based on marriage and circumstances
  • Figure out conundrum of how to cite the unpublished manuscript of her son
    • Moved to article talk page and opened a request on refdesk.
      • Problem solved.

Three Women with Parasols[edit]

  • Verify size. 2011 exhibition lists size as 139 x 89. Without frame?
    • Moved to article talk page.

On the Terrace at Sèvres[edit]

  • Multiple images and colors available. Sort by museum: 1) Musée du Petit Palais; 2) Artizon Museum. Then sort by differences: size, color, etc.
    • Moved to article talk page.

Renoir[edit]

  • Move: Meissirel, Thierry (15 Février 2021). "Ahmed Ziani veut toujours croire à son Renoir à 700 €" Archived 2022-11-10 at the Wayback Machine. Le Progrès. Retrieved November 10, 2022.
  • Move: Zimmerman, Michael F. (2012). "From Bohemia to Arcadia: Renoir Between Nervous Modernity and Primitive Eternity." In Nina Zimmer (ed). Renoir: Between Bohemia and Bourgeoisie. The Early Years. Hatje Cantz. pp. 15-50. ISBN 9783775732413. OCLC 789642444.

Lise Tréhot[edit]

Task list
  • Update list of paintings  Done
    • Add details column
    • Restore content and image about fragmented tableau  Done
      • Add Herzog-Russian museum history  In progress

La Promenade (Renoir)[edit]

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
  • add more sources
Add House (2013), "The Many Faces of Lise Tréhot", if applicable
Add Patry (2022), "In search of Lise, Renoir's model and muse", if applicable
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).  Doing... fix House (1997); split into works cited and cite by individual page number
fix provenance section: source
2c. it contains no original research.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.

 Remark: at some point between 1989-1997, the interpretation changed from Raphe Maitre to Lise. How and why did this happen? Likely attributed to Getty purchase/House research?

  • Develop and expand provenance section
Mention record price tag of purchase by Getty at time ($17 million?)
Mention post-sale restoration
  • Note that painting is either on or not on display


3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).


4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.  Done
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment.

Lise with a Parasol[edit]

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
  •  Done article title moved to common name used by museum
  •  Done update footer
  •  Not done authority control
  • False positive Wikipedia:Link rot issue: external link to museum painting goes down once a day, generally in the early morning hours, Essen, Germany, timezone, likely due to system maintenance done on site. This is somewhat unusual, and could pose a problem during a review. Noting it here for future reviewer. Link is still valid, however, just not accessible 24/7, which is odd for a museum collection.
    • Not a false positive. They changed the server without any redirect. Fixed.


2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.  Done blue sky, but unsourced: "The painting was moved to Essen when the museum relocated in 1922 as the Museum Folkwang."
Added link to museum page as source.
 Done Add Patry (2022), "In search of Lise, Renoir's model and muse", if applicable
"The painting was one of Renoir's first critically successful works"

::Donahue 2013 notes this was a minor success compared to the larger success a decade later of Madame Georges Charpentier and Her Children (1878). That article says nothing about such success, so the first step is to modify it and then adjust this one

Done.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).

 Done corrected and verified provenance per Patry 2022

Verified a second time just to be sure.
2c. it contains no original research.
2d. it contains no copyright violations or plagiarism.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.

 Doing... expand background with previous works completed around the time of Lise. (Mother Anthony’s Tavern, Diana)
compared to Symphony in White, No. 1: The White Girl by James Abbott McNeill Whistler (Distal 1995:25)
"Tinged shadows with violet blue" (Roque 1996)
social role and thematic content (Waller 2007)

  • Background: although it is not popularly known, the sources make clear that Renoir wasn’t as poor as others portray him. His father was able to retire in relative comfort and allowed his son to live with his family. Renoir was a conservative, a reactionary, and a Christian. He was anti-academic (in terms of learning the craft of art), and anti-intellectual (he spoke often against education as a barrier). He was also sexist and anti-Semitic although some authors like White have tried to downplay this issue. The death of his first child was a tragedy that could be somewhat attributed to abandonment due to the cultural and religious mores at the time. He differed from his contemporaries as he failed to marry Lise Trehot, but the reasons aren’t exactly known. He obviously tried to make good with his second child as he secretly supported her for the rest of his life. With the benefit of hindsight, his comments about female artists, his own contemporaries, are unforgivable, and his vision of art can only be described as momentarily transcendent for only a decade or so, before he succumbed to the insouciance of his wealth and prestige, becoming what he both despised and desired.
  • Forest of Fontainebleau and Barbizon school
    • Adams 1994; Roos 1994; Patry 2022)
      • Issues with dating of Fontainebleau period, as it varies depending on the author. Need to restrict it to general range.
    • Rise of the railway lines made it possible for quick travel to the forests
    • Sous-bois genre ("undergrowth", or forest interior)
    • Should briefly note the Raoul_Rigault#Meeting_with_Renoir at this time, as it would save his life in 1870.
  • Expand influence of Le Coeur patronage
    •  Done
  • Use of companions instead of professional models
    • Professional models were expensive
    • "Young painters desire to move away from stereotypes and renew the canons of female beauty. Their aim was to paint real living young women of their time, not professional models striking conventional poses. They contrasted the ideal of beauty derived from antiquity from the women of their day". (Patry 2022 via Zola? Event occurs 22:30.)
  • Rise of the department store in the new Paris (Denvir 1993, p. 16)
    • Le Bon Marché
      • Was the dress purchased from a department store?
        • Patry 2022
  • Expand dress info from Whitmore 2014
  • Explain use and function of Parasol
    • Tanned skin were considered indicative of the poor who worked the fields and déclassé (Patry 2022)
  • Add Jules-Antoine Castagnary[1]
    • Link added to quote. Not ideal. Would rather link outside quote.
  • Add importance of Salon of 1868 compared to other salons before it; opening of voting jury, breakthrough of modernist painters
    • Roos seems to claim that the Salon of 1868 was the birth of modernism. Need to explore this more as it could be controversial
      • Could be supported by Zimmerman. Need to check. On first glance, this is the implicit thesis of this article. The problem is that we have a major paradox. Renoir was a conservative reactionary looking towards the past who was at the same time, experimenting with looking towards the future. This could be due to several different factors, but one that stands out in the literature is Renoir's tendency to experiment and improvise, even in his own words, as opposed to the careful planning and organization by artists like Monet. Could it be that Renoir accidentally hit upon a modernist aesthetic in this work by combining the landscape painting of the Barbizon school before him in homage to his past, while adding the figure of a contemporary, almost commercial and fashionable (for the time) Lise in the present? Monet had done this before, but less successfully with the landscape. Renoir may have accidentally created the first modern commercial fashion advertisement. It's not a coincidence that Jeanne Lanvin owned the sister painting. At the inception of this painting, the new department stores in Paris were selling modern women's clothing and Lise appears to be advertising the new style. See Patry 2022.
  • Unusual size of work
    • Lise’s large format gave the painting more attention at the Salon
      •  Done. Although Patry should be added. Sourced to House and Bailey.
        • Added image to illustrate this point
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.  Remark: Vollard reference to Renoir interview about Lise origin needs to be fixed. Renoir claims it was painted in 1866 according to Vollard. See footnote 3
This was briefly addressed in the talk page archive. Bottom line is either Vollard was wrong or it's a misprint. I will bring it up on the refdesk again just to cover all the bases. The more important question is why is an authority like Vollard so wrong about the date.

 Doing... "There is some debate about where the painting was made. Both Douglas Cooper and Anne Distel argue that the painting was probably completed in Chantilly, not Fontainebleau as commonly assumed according to Vollard."

Probably should be dismissed
Patry (2022) makes a good argument against this and for the Fontainebleau origin based on Lise’s time with Renoir coinciding with the painting
 Done New evidence suggests that the painting was likely composed in Chantilly. Renoir spent a lot of time in both the Chantilly forest and the Fontainebleau in pursuit of the realist aesthetics of the Barbizon painters before him, particularly with his respect and admiration for Narcisse Virgilio Díaz, who not only saved his life from an attack in the forest by miscreants, but also helped support Renoir through the years by paying for his art supplies. In the end, it matters not which forest the painting was made or completed in, or if it was even made in the studio as opposed to en plein air. What matters is that Renoir was carrying on the Barbizon tradition of going to nature, but adding the figure of Lise in his own modification of the older genre and bringing it forward into a new one.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.  Done
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
  • add 2-3 additional images. Could add André Gill’s "semisoft cheese out for a stroll", but consider if it encourages an archaic form of sexism or body shaming. How to represent that view without encouraging it? I prefer to ignore the image, but that’s also problematic. Would be best to have a modern commentary on the caricature, but it’s hard to find
    •  Done Added because Tinterow and Distel both highlight it as significant criticism and reaction to Renoir's use of unusual contrast, so it has more to do with Renoir's strange use of light and dark than it does with sexism.
  • Still prefer to add image of old Salon painting showing how the paintings appeared on the wall. Something like this.
7. Overall assessment.