User talk:109.79.160.61

August 2021

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.— Fourthords | =Λ= | 15:34, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

I don't think it was unreasonable to criticize a large delete that could have easily been avoided if Fourthords (talk · contribs) had read the article before deleting or had used {{citation needed}} on the paragraphs that did not have clear enough references. -- 109.79.160.61 (talk) 16:07, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Block

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 2 weeks for hounding using this suspect account. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

El_C 17:21, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Unblocked with apologies

Sorry to have misread the situation, IP. El_C 17:49, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

A short block or a long block I was ready to discuss and face any the consequences and try to learn from my mistakes. I will try to do better but I do not think it was wrong to criticize a user for making large deletes apparently without taking due care and attention. Thank you for the apology it wasn't necessary but it is appreciated. More importantly thank you for your vigilance. -- 109.79.160.61 (talk) 19:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for being gracious, IP. All the best, El_C 21:16, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

It sucks, but you should get an account

I read the AN/I report, and it's pretty clear that you know how to edit rather well. I get not having an account is the cool thing to do for cool people, but it does make things a lot easier when you have one (communication-wise).

I also will point out that User:Red Shirt Anon is not taken... –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:46, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

I'm not as big a Star Trek fan as my recent edits might suggest, but I've had a lot of spare time indoors recently and noticed Star Trek: Enterprise was in frequent reruns and decided to catch up and watch the episodes I'd missed (it turns out that aside from a few episodes in season 4 I'd seen nearly all of them already).

"It sucks, but you should get an account" fair comment, if I were you I'd probably encourage that too. Have you ever read the essay "Wikipedia:Why not create an account?" about the joys of editing anonymously? It is trying to be funny but I it makes some good points. Your account name "MJL" is not giving much away either, having an account is probably more anonymous than editing as an IP. It is not that I think it is "cool" not to have an account, there are advantages and disadvantages, some people like having an account and that's fine. Accusations of being a sock puppet is a disadvantage. Being treated with skepticism and judge on your actions not reputation could be either. I've been editing anonymously for years, on the Popeye (film) article alone you can see a comment of mine going back to 2017, it might have been a decade already since I stopped logging in.

People thoughtlessly deleting, which is too damned easy, is a big part of the reason why I abandoned my account but I did not give up editing Wikipedia entirely. Improving articles is hard, I'm still surprised how little Wikipedia does to discourage people from even accidentally adding garbage in. I'm disappointed that I'm getting all this attention but the careless deletes hardly seem to get a comment.

Getting an account might imply I wanted to take Wikipedia more seriously, and intended to edit more often. I don't even want to imply that, I hope things change soon and I have less reason to spend time indoors. I'd much prefer to edit articles and not argue with editors who should know better about the endless rules. Even experienced editors would do well to focus on the WP:SIMPLE rules and keep asking themselves ask am I improving the article? Deleting large paragraphs of text because editors neglected to repeat the same reference over and over again might not violate the letter of the rules but it sure violates the spirt. The text looked like it was probably true, adding a citation needed tag wouldn't have been that hard. Asking an editor to read the article before deleting is not expecting much.

With all due respect I'm am unlike to ever get an account again, this was supposed to be the encyclopedia that anyone can edit, even if anonymous editing was no longer allowed. I think I'm improving articles, leaving things better than I found. The most likely thing is that (the plague times will eventually end and) policies will discourage me more than they already have and I will edit less and less often. -- 109.79.160.61 (talk) 20:13, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

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