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Hi, Velella. I appreciate your concern and care for Wikipedia and contributions to it, but I have reverted your reversion, as there is no grounds on which you should have reverted my edit. Were you to have reviewed my edit, you would have observed that your claim holds no water whatsoever; I have neither maliciously nor counterproductively, or in any manner contrary to Wikipedia's policies, removed some content from the GB Center for Intelligence article.
My leaving an edit summary is luxury. Is it not enough for users to assume good faith, particularly when users aren't in fact messing up articles? It pays dividends via, say, not driving away IP editors.
Cheers. 14.200.68.118 (talk) 14:47, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I reverted on the basis of your removal of the "only one source" template without any explanation or edit summary. It remains the case that this article is dependent on only one source. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk   14:50, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Velella:

Fine. However, in reverting or in leaving a message here, you could have been markedly more specific as to what the issue was. Furthermore, you could have been so kind and decent as to have reverted only part of my edit, by manually inserting back {{one source}}. Such a broad reversion does absolutely no good.

I will find another source, as opposed to merely another reference, for information in and for the article. However, do realise that there are certain issues when dealing with an article on such a sensitive matter. --14.200.68.118 (talk) 16:08, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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@Auric:
Thanks for your warning and message, but could you clarify why the page is titled "Mile high club" when the bold first mention of the subject of the article is "Mile High Club"? Furthermore, could you explain why you used a template on me or reinserted the two spaces after the second sentence? 14.200.68.118 (talk) 14:48, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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No, but the fact that the change was made by an anonymous editor without an edit summary generally is a good indicator that the change is unneeded. MOS is the closest, as there isn't a warning for changing capitals. I don't know what you mean by "reinserted the two spaces after the second sentence".--Auric talk 15:00, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Auric:
See here, noting the blue highlighting after "There is no known formally constituted [[club]] so named.". Hopefully this isn't too difficult to understand now that I have provided further clarification.
Please read and familiarise yourself with Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Article titles. You have completely missed the mark on providing any cogent reason for why "Mile High Club" should be the appropriate capitalisation. Moreover, if it were the appropriate capitalisation, you have failed to rationalise why the page has not been moved to "Mile High Club" (or "Mile-High Club") as would be expected and appropriate. 14.200.68.118 (talk) 15:09, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mira Aroyo[edit]

Hi. I noticed that you edited the page of Mira Aroyo and also added:

  • "Aroyo left the university without graduating with a degree";
  • "Aroyo was studying for a PhD in genetics at the University of Oxford, but did not graduate, before entering music and she is also a DJ.

From where did you get these pieces of information? In that reference (that I added it myself in the past), there is not a mention that supports the text you added.

Mira actually said "I was a geneticist doing a PhD and realising lab work wasn't for me". Does that mean that she didn't get her degree?Deepblue1 (talk) 22:13, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Deepblue1:
I appreciate interest in and passion for Mira Aroyo and Ladytron, as well as the work you have done and are doing for these and related articles. However, by the same token, where is your reference that Mira Aroyo left the university, having graduated with a Ph.D. (and, precisely, in what? Formally, what is the award?).
I have read on various sites, in various words and phrasings that Ms. Mira Aroyo is not only Ms. Mira Aroyo but she is also Dr. Mira Aroyo, by virtue of having earned a Ph.D.; however, this is in stark contrast to (internal) interviews, as well as information at Oxford.
Mira Aroyo's supposed completion of her course at the University of Oxford is a widely interpreted and perpetuated falsehood, and that is undoubtedly partly due to the Wikipedia article being as it was written. That untruth needs to corrected, even much after the fact. 14.200.68.118 (talk) 07:38, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies. I meant Oxford. I really didn't think Oxonians would go such a radical course; and, besides, Oxford awards D.Phil.s. This error shouldn't detract from my genuine and valid criticism and concern for this factual inconsistency.
For one's curiosity and in the interest of comprehensiveness, would you know with which college Mira Aroyo was affiliated? Or where she obtained her first degree (and, if any other, subsequent degrees)? Ta. 14.200.68.118 (talk) 07:41, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but your claims are false. Here's an interview/article from The Guardian: "One time we came on stage to Paranoid by Black Sabbath," recalls Mira Aroyo, a Bulgarian geneticist who recently completed her PhD at Oxford University. I will find more sources about this. Deepblue1 (talk) 12:25, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
One more: you said "however, this is in stark contrast to (internal) interviews, as well as information at Oxford". I think there should be way to ask Oxford directly if Mira Aroyo completed her PhD (or how it's called). Deepblue1 (talk) 12:35, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Pray tell, why do you insist on fighting me tooth and nail on this?
Furthermore, where do you get "in 2002" from "Mira Aroyo, a Bulgarian geneticist who recently completed her PhD at Oxford University"? She could very well have completed it in 2001, which could still be considered recent. PhD theses are instantly written up, submitted and accepted. Besides this, how is it that you haven't reverted my contribution about another paper on which she co-authored (if, indeed, she did contribute a substantial portion and wrote any substantial part of it?). Additionally, why did you not correct "postgraduate" to "postdoctoral" if Aroyo has a doctorate? Clearly, you are well out of your depth here. My claims aren't false; they hold water, and they aren't claims as much as they are statements anyway.
I already made it abundantly clear that all sorts of sources falsely claim, without a specific and independent source that has its facts straight, that Aroyo graduated. I don't care that The Guardian reported that; other newspapers and online articles claim that very same thing. If indeed she graduated, she'd probably appear among the university alumni and university and departmental documents.
Look, I get it. You have a vested interest in the band. What I don't get is why you care whether Aroyo has completed a D.Phil. at the University. I couldn't care less about the band, but I do care about giving credit to where it is due and, while I don't doubt Aroyo was a budding scientist and might have gone far with it and would have been an asset to the Department of Biochemistry and University (sure, in a way, it's just another biochemistry department and university), not representing them in a poor light. 14.200.68.118 (talk) 14:11, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Right. I just checked the University's repository of theses. Her name on her articles is Mira Aroyo, but there is no theses under Mira (middle name) Aroyo or Mira Aroyo. Unless her thesis has been suppressed for a very long time (they can be, generally for a year, for the sake of giving some time to allow patents to be awarded, which I doubt is relevant here if you actually read the work she contributed to), it doesn't appear that she submitted a D.Phil. thesis. No D.Phil. thesis, no D.Phil. That's that. 14.200.68.118 (talk) 14:14, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, if you didn't read The Guardian article for yourself, that was simply an article; there was absolutely no quote from her or any indication that Aroyo was interviewed. Moreover, there was no attribution to how The Guardian came across that info that she had graduated. It simply made that assertion, as have all other newspapers. 14.200.68.118 (talk) 14:19, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]


@Deepblue1:: Please review the Mira Aroyo article now, check things aren't egregiously wrong, and kindly leave it well alone. I have gone through the article meticulously to fix up many problems that you have, perhaps while trying to make constructive and well-intentioned edits, introduced. Most of these involve templates, with which you should perhaps familiarise yourself by viewing the code and the documentation.

It's all very well and good to like the subject of an article and to improve Wikipedia, for what it is and what it is worth; but, if you are going to do something, you may as well as do it well.

By the way, do not modify any statements or claims regarding Aroyo's alumna status. She can be considered an alumna of the University of Oxford, the Department of Biochem, and whatever college/PPH, but she makes it quite clear that she left her studies. It may appear subtle, but it's both implied and clear as day she left for a life in music in the references prior to my first edit on the article.

Cheers. Have a good one. 14.200.68.118 (talk) 15:22, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If you are inclined to edit the article, please only do so with a robust reference and after you read the reference and critically assess its utility. Again, due respect, The Guardian article you use as evidence is utter rubbish. 14.200.68.118 (talk) 15:24, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Besides that, could you please use a heading and actually link to the page in question in the future? If not, things become quite messy. Thanks so much. 14.200.68.118 (talk) 06:35, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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OK. Sorry... wait, so things aren't fine? --14.200.68.118 (talk) 14:36, 17 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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