User talk:14Adrian

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Your Hitler edits[edit]

Hi, you recently made several edits to the Hitler entry. I've amended/reverted some of them, because they seem somewhat repetitive and ambiguous. It would help greatly if you could give a brief reason for your edits in the edit summary box, or else elaborate on the discussion page. These are very useful tools for engaging with other contributors. Thanks. Malljaja (talk) 17:43, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because when I read them over again it didn't make sense.--14Adrian (talk) 18:19, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure I understand your reply. There are two issues with your edit. First, the word "still" occurs twice in the same sentence, making for some awkward reading. Second, it suggests that Austrians were Germans at some point before and that for that reason many of them still identified as "Germans". Although this latter assertion may be true, it'll probably need a proper source, as I had suggested in one of my recent edits. I would like to remind you that it's always a good idea to give a brief explanation in the edit summary (the small box underneath the editing window)—it is common courtesy to do so, and it shows that you're willing to engage with other contributors who may have questions or concerns about your edits. Thanks. Malljaja (talk) 20:35, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I'm just pretty new to Wikipedia editing so just getting used to things, erm most people know that historically Austrians were seen as Germans and only after WW2 the separate identification of 'Austrian not German' was created and without putting 'still' twice the sentence wouldn't make sense but I'll try and find a different way of putting it or an alternative word.--14Adrian (talk) 21:16, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"In contrast to many other Austrians who—despite considering themselves still as Germans—were loyal to Austria, Hitler expressed loyalty only to Germany." Is much better.--14Adrian (talk) 22:47, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response and explanation, and for your thumbs up for the latest revision. I'd preferred to gloss over the Austria-Germany national relationship here, since I'm not sure that the source (Payne) that follows a couple or so sentences later covers this complicated national identity issue. But it may be relevant and finding an appropriate citation—if needed—might be worthwhile. Malljaja (talk) 22:54, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll add a cited source now and put a space between the dashes as needed.--14Adrian (talk) 22:55, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding these sources. It'll probably be preferable to have a more stable citation (e.g., a book or more scholarly article), but since it's not a controversial topic this should do for now. Please remember to include a brief summary with your edits, especially when you make more substantive edits—besides indicating some respect for the work already there, such summary gives your edit more authority and credibility and thus is less likely to be simply reverted (as I had done initially with your contributions, in part because there was no explanation for the edits you had done). Thanks again. Malljaja (talk) 23:27, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where abouts do I do a brief summary for my edits on the page I'm editing or my talk page here?--14Adrian (talk) 23:37, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Underneath the main editing window and above the "Save page" button (and just above the "This is a minor edit" tick box) is a field called "Edit summary" into which you can write a synopsis of your edit (such as "added references", "added details about H's childhood", or the like). Malljaja (talk) 23:44, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay no worries and thank you...plenty of sources out there to be honest but the 2 on it seem cited enough right if people say not strong enough for what is wrote in the text?

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October 2011[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at Talk:Anschluss, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. (Hohum ^@) 19:43, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked from editing for a period of one week for disruption. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Gwen Gale (talk) 17:24, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've blocked this account indefinitely owing to sockpuppetry, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/GeordieWikiEditor. Gwen Gale (talk) 18:10, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]