User talk:174.18.20.181

Edits to General Conference of the Evangelical Baptist Church, Inc.[edit]

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Please also read and keep in mind WP:OWN and WP:COI Novaseminary (talk) 06:31, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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It does look as you copy/pasted unreferenced material at that article. Please do explain your reasoning instead of boldly reverting the edits.

Materialscientist (talk) 08:15, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

174.18.20.181 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I have had many problems with this listing. The denomination information was changed by an administrator without any discussion as to the changes done. The information to this listing wask originally put in by Christy Smalley who is the current owner of this denomonation. I currently serve on her board. When I noticed that the majority of the content had been delted I tried to revert it back to the orginal information. There was no communication from the adminstrator as to the nature of the removal of the information. There was no indication as to what needed to be verrified. I have reported the issues concerning this administrator and hope for a swift resolve. I will go through the official channels to edit content in the future

Decline reason:

This request does not address the behaviour that led to the block: an admitted "edit war". The be bold, revert, discuss cycle is important - although not policy, it's an easy way to understand process. Let me provide another vital reference (besides WP:RS ... WP:COI. You source your info before to put it in the article, and you do not do major edits to an article with which you have a conflict of interest. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:12, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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174.18.20.181 (talk) 02:34, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The inserted information was poorly formatted, but this could be quickly fixed. The problem was absence of references to reliable sources. Such unreferenced additions may be removed on the spot, especially for sensitive topics. Please do provide in-line references to information which you bring to wikipedia. Materialscientist (talk) 09:41, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

One more note, it appears that this address belongs to user:Hyquest. Please avoid reverting other editors using more than one account. Materialscientist (talk) 09:48, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You observation is incorrect. Hyquest is the owner of the company. I am on the board.

174.18.20.181 (talk) 02:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The conflict started when the owner was trying to add the original content that was deleted with the proper references. The administrator kept reverting the information while the user was editing. I know all this was happining because she communicated this to me. So how is it that referenced can be added when content and new references keep being deleted. We were not even given time to resolve the issue.

174.18.20.181 (talk) 02:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Any saved edits of mainframe wikipedia articles become immediately visible to the world and shortly picked up by other internet sites. For this reason, it is advised to prepare the information on a local computer or on a temporal page, such as wikipedia:sandbox or personal wikipedia userpages. Materialscientist (talk) 10:08, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So any changes should be created in the sandbox first and then added to the site. We should also make sure that all the formatting in correct before they will be accepted. I wish the last administrator would have made mention of this instead of just calling them tests. I feel that the administrator did a poor job of communicating the problem. We will abide by that in the future. 174.18.20.181 (talk) 03:15, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

An important step was missing - when your edits were reverted by a wikipedia editor, with a provided edit summary, it was expected that you contact the editor at their talk page and discuss the changes instead of reverting them. The general WP:AGF wikipedia policy, in this case, means that there was something wrong with your edits, which would be kindly explained upon request. Materialscientist (talk) 10:21, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ok so basicaly I was doing it all wrong. Ok got it. I will try to brush up on my skills. I will also explain the situation to user Hyquest. Thank you for your help. 174.18.20.181 (talk) 03:27, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please see comments I made over at Talk:General Conference of the Evangelical Baptist Church, Inc. Thank you! Novaseminary (talk) 15:43, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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