User talk:5.240.133.139

August 2021

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Narayana Guru

The alphabet shown is IPA, not Malayalam script. That's why it says IPA. ... discospinster _talk 15:54, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Wrote simultaneously on your own talk page.

If you click on the link I advised you to click on in my edit comment, you come to Help:IPA/Malayalam. Why is that relevant? Because the pronunciation indicated in the article is the Malayalam pronunciation, not any other. Pronunciations in other languages may be similar to the Malayalam one, but by the choice of IPA version, this is singled out as the Malayalam one. There is no such thing as a global "IPA pronunciation".

Excuse my many words, but I really don't know how to be clearer. I hadn't expected to be reverted on grounds like these. 5.240.133.139 (talk) 16:06, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

And: it has nothing to do with what alphabet the language is written in natively. The IPA script is for writing down pronunciation in a particular language. 5.240.133.139 (talk) 16:10, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

The link you posted to Help:IPA/Malayalam itself says that the template {{IPA-ml}} is used to indicate that it's the IPA alphabet representation of the Malayalam pronunciation. So it does not need to be changed to {{lang-ml}} which is used to indicate Malayalam script, which this is not. ... discospinster _talk 17:01, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Here is the difference:

• {{IPA-ml|n̪ɐːɾɐːjɐɳɐ guɾu|IPA}} = IPA: [n̪ɐːɾɐːjɐɳɐ guɾu] - when you click on it you go to Help:IPA/Malayalam
• {{lang-ml|ശ്രീനാരായണഗുരു}} = Malayalam: ശ്രീനാരായണഗുരു - his name in the script

Now if you want to indicate that it's Malayalam pronunciation you take the last IPA from the template

• {{IPA-ml|n̪ɐːɾɐːjɐɳɐ guɾu}} = Malayalam pronunciation: [n̪ɐːɾɐːjɐɳɐ guɾu]

... discospinster _talk 17:09, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

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