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Umm... I explained why. You apparently did not like the explanation. Can you avoid reverting changes in the future like this without thinking or discussing? Thanks.

Your explanation is insufficient. You dismiss referenced material, without discussion, on the basis that a psychiatrist (who is a physician) should not be a source for physical ailments. Ifnord (talk) 05:16, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

You simply cherry-picked one part of my reasoning. These events have occurred independently, in several nations, reported by dozens of first-hand witnesses, since this section was written. Your bizzare belief that speculative opinion becomes fact if any physician claims otherwise is irrational. Wikipedia is not a place for speculative opinion of any kind, and speculation does not become fact no matter who makes the claim.

My belief is irrelevant, and you're probably making incorrect assumptions. The point is that there is referenced material which point to a psychogenetic cause - and more references which say it does not. Both are reliably sourced, removing them because you do not believe it to be so is wrong. Ifnord (talk) 05:25, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

The material that is referenced refers to speculative opinions. You do realize that just because a speculation is written down, doesn't mean it is evidence right? I do not appreciate that we are including speculative assumptions along with real hard evidence.

You are obviously bonded to this issue, I am not. I will leave this for other editors, but food for thought: the section you are removing also contains the referenced material against such an origin. If there is no concrete and universally accepted cause, why would you not want to explain all possible cause and show why they can be ruled out? Ifnord (talk) 05:32, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

August 2021

Hello, I'm Ifnord. I noticed that you recently removed content from Havana syndrome without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. You have removed referenced material. Please, discuss those changes on the talk page first. Ifnord (talk) 05:11, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Havana syndrome, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. Ifnord (talk) 05:15, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Havana syndrome. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Also plese read wp:spa.Slatersteven (talk) 09:02, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.Slatersteven (talk) 17:26, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Note if you revert again I will report.Slatersteven (talk) 17:26, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Oct 21

You should not alter posts after they have been replied to.Slatersteven (talk) 17:58, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

October 2021

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JellyMan9001 (talk) 18:08, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

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Also do not insert comments in between another users paragraphs. If you wish to reply to a user, do so after their post, not in the middle of it.Slatersteven (talk) 18:09, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

And read wp:or and wp:soap.Slatersteven (talk) 18:09, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

April 2022

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