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Again, welcome! ... richi (hello) 22:24, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How was my edit unconstructive? I was trying to make it more acceptable on the page. The source is displaying too much information and looks a mess. I don't see what I did wrong?77.97.55.147 (talk) 17:20, 27 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

November 2016[edit]

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December 2016[edit]

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I thought sources needed to be added to corroborate articles? There were none so I thought that usually text like that was removed?77.97.55.147 (talk) 12:51, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As you'd be aware now, another editor has found sources for the majority of the 'unsourced' content. What tends to happen is that articles are developed and the content changed around (including edit warring which leaves terrible messes). If the content isn't dubious, and is long standing, chances are that references have been removed somewhere in that process. There's a bit of a learning curve involved in editing, so please don't be disheartened. You'll get the hang of things with experience. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 20:22, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
They've found sources? That's OK then. Sorry for the inconvenience. Hope it helped.77.97.55.147 (talk) 14:30, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

May 2017[edit]

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Cast lists and links[edit]

Hi, could you stop performing edits like this [1]. A redirect for a new character either has been or will be created as soon as possible (usually straight after they've been added to a table). If the link is showing up red, try refreshing the page or wait, as it won't be red for long. - JuneGloom07 Talk 18:29, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you didn't read this or ignored it, but please stop removing links for upcoming characters. Fay Brennan is a redirect to her list entry, and as far as I can see, it is working fine. - JuneGloom07 Talk 19:43, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't see the first message. I apologize. Won't happen again.77.97.55.147 (talk) 18:03, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

August 2017[edit]

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I removed the sources because I believed that they did not meet the criteria to be on the soap opera villains list because, as I said in the discussion page, the sources did not refer to the character of Fi Browning as a "villain" or "evil" which is what I had been led to believe was needed for verification. I added a source for a character from Neighbours that does describe him as so and that has also been removed. As I didn't get a reply I wasn't sure what else to do.77.97.55.147 (talk) 22:59, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I see you had discussed on the talk page, the problem was that you didn’t gain consensus that the character was or wasn’t a villain. I agree the links only implied that the character is a villain but it’s better to wait until consensus is gained before changing or deleting. I have found a third link which shows the character is nominated for an award under “Bad girl” category, so feel that this does mean that the character can be considered a villain. NZ Footballs Conscience(talk) 23:38, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I apologize. What do other users think?77.97.55.147 (talk) 14:13, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

October 2017[edit]

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How was it vandalism? I was removing a blemish from the page. No characters are leaving the show at the moment, and no new castings have been announced and no past characters are currently returning. I was just hiding the box until it was needed to be used again. Someone else who was in charge of editing the page should have done this already.77.97.55.147 (talk) 01:49, 5 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Recent edit to List of Hollyoaks characters[edit]

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Coronation Street characters[edit]

It is 2017. It is impossible to have a character duration ending in 2018 because 2018 hasn't happened yet. There are perfectly adequate, sourced references to the departures of Anna, Aidan and Eva in the Departing Characters section. Current Characters, by definition, refers to characters who are currently in the show. All three are. Smurfmeister (talk) 15:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So when the New Year begins, will it be changed and 2018 be added to their durations then?77.97.55.147 (talk) 17:13, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It can be added when they leave. Smurfmeister (talk) 10:44, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
To the past characters list?77.97.55.147 (talk) 12:16, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Smurfmeister (talk) 14:07, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Will this be implemented to the other soap character lists? Because they are still the same, with the departing characters end dates being listed on their durations.77.97.55.147 (talk) 15:52, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It would make sense, yes. Smurfmeister (talk) 17:23, 18 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

February 2018[edit]

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How are they defamatory or libellous? They are about fictional characters not real people. One of the sources I added contained the word "evil" which is the correct criteria for this page. The other source links I edited were to put them in the correct format. What have I done wrong? I wasn't aware that I was breaking any rules. (Accidents OFF the stage don’t count.) What does this remark in the brackets refer to? I certainly didn't type it.77.97.55.147 (talk) 13:14, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Anchorvale: Hi, I think you might have been a little hasty with this warning. 77.97.55.147 added a fictional character to the list, who was referred to as "evil" in the source (per the criteria of the page) [2]. The source was an article about fictional events in a soap opera. 77.97.55.147 also filled out a reference, which didn't need reverting. I can't see anything defamatory or libellous against any real person. - JuneGloom07 Talk 17:11, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@JuneGloom07: Thanks!  Anchorvale T@lk  06:42, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

May 2018[edit]

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July 2018[edit]

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The source I removed does not refer to the Hollyoaks character Imran Maalik as being a "villain" or "evil" so does not fit the criteria for this list. I did explain this in the edit summary as to why I had removed it. Was it ignored?77.97.55.147 (talk) 14:09, 4 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Broadwaygenius: Having looked at the edit in question, 77.97.55.147's removal was correct. The source provided did not back up the information, as mentioned in their edit summary. Would you consider striking this warning? - JuneGloom07 Talk 17:03, 5 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@JuneGloom07: Apologies. Warning striked

December 2018[edit]

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It wasn't a mistake. I tried to explain in the edit summary box but it is very small. The section on Mike Swirling I have been contributing to and the last few paragraphs of text had been removed for no apparent reason. I tried to have it reverted but nobody took any notice. They said the section was too long so I suggested that either they give Swirling his own page or remove him from the list. It seems pointless having a section for him if it cannot be updated. There is also no way of condensing the text without not mentioning all of his appearances so I thought that if the text is too long and if I or any other contributors are unable to make anymore additions then there is no point in having the section there to begin with. The other deleted text should be reverted as well if the text I deleted has been.77.97.55.147 (talk) 01:10, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Based on the fact that Swirling has no development (reception, casting news etc.), he does not qualify for his own article. Hence, a section is provided for him. Technically, he shouldn't even have a section since there are no sources in it, but alas, the prose within the section is too big for a line in the others table. I think I have adequately condensed the section, allowing for more to be added if he appears in more episodes. Feel free to add to the section, but I do ask that you don't remove content again. It could result in further action being taken against yourself. Soaper1234 - talk 18:01, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Why not just remove all description of his appearances at all then? Just have the opening sentence on his section about who he is and why he appears. i.e. "he is a local police officer who appears on a recurring basis when the police are called". Also I did suggest that they remove him from the list and not bother giving him a section but I was ignored.77.97.55.147 (talk) 18:34, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The character has a description of their appearance since most characters do. However, each appearance is not mentioned because it is not necessary to mention each time a character appears. If we said each time a character appears, pages would be very long indeed as I'm sure you can imagine! Therefore, we only mention short, significant appearances or just brief mentions of appearaces, like I have. Hope you understand. Soaper1234 - talk 18:59, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I do. I won't contribute to the page anymore as I would not be able to do that without being too descriptive.77.97.55.147 (talk) 19:01, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously, I'm not encouraging you to not get involved as Wikipedia is for everyone. In fact, I would recommend that you create an account so you can be more active! You clearly have some constructive input into the articles and discussions here. Soaper1234 - talk 19:04, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Of course. I never suggested you were. I think I got a bit carried away with that Swirling section to be honest. I'll still continue to contribute to other sections if I think I can.77.97.55.147 (talk) 19:06, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

January 2019[edit]

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I didn't make an unconstructive edit. I was updating the page. Angie and George Appleton have now left the show so the sources I deleted were no longer needed. I then added them to the past characters list where they should now be after removing them from the present characters list. How is what I did vandalism?77.97.55.147 (talk) 21:27, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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January 2019[edit]

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There are other sources from The Sun used on the Soap Opera Villains section. Should they be removed now?77.97.55.147 (talk) 13:01, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

February 2019[edit]

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Nicola Thorp confirmed that her return to Coronation Street was for five episodes only. These have now aired. Friday's episode featured her character leaving to return to Bristol woven into one of the storylines.77.97.55.147 (talk) 18:37, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

March 2019[edit]

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I assumed after Monday's episodes that this would be the last we would see of Clayton and that he had departed the show. Was I wrong to make that assumption? If so I apologize.77.97.55.147 (talk) 11:31, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Problem?[edit]

Do you have a problem with every source that someone adds that isn't yours? So much for this being a community on Wikipedia when you just undo everything everyone else does. Be nicer to others on this website. --82.132.218.139 (talk) 22:30, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Which source are you referring to?77.97.55.147 (talk) 08:24, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Disruption notice[edit]

You keep stating "The character has now reappeared onscreen so the sources are no longer needed" in your edit summaries. The edits usually consist of you deleting an entire table, including references that are used elsewhere. This is not actually that helpful. Please try to move the character to the recurring characters table if applicable, move the source up if it is used elsewhere and generally just stop deleting information from the Holby City list. Just because a character has appeared on-screen does not mean a cited source is no longer required.Rain the 1 17:16, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So when adding the character to the list, so I move the source up as well? None of the other TV soaps keep the references following cast changes so I just made the assumption that Holby would be the same.77.97.55.147 (talk) 11:43, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

May 2019[edit]

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The reason I keep removing it is because the page has been messed up and not been corrected. I thought if I deleted the content it would highlight this and something would be done about it. Sorry for not making this clear.77.97.55.147 (talk) 19:02, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Well now that the page has been restored, I won't make any more of these edits. I just wanted to draw attention to something but it has now been dealt with.77.97.55.147 (talk) 21:28, 31 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

September 2019[edit]

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Which edit in particular are you referring to?77.97.55.147 (talk) 16:14, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It was this one [3]. If you had used an edit summary, it likely wouldn't have been reverted. - JuneGloom07 Talk 18:04, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'll do that from now on.77.97.55.147 (talk) 21:01, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

November 2019[edit]

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January 2020[edit]

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Sorry. My source was the website "Corriepedia". That has names of actors on it, including child actors.77.97.55.147 (talk) 10:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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