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Welsh people#People born/grew up in Wales of non-Welsh descent are Welsh or not?

In this edit today (which you did not sign) you said, "Well that's just a blatant lie, isn't it." Would you care to retract that baseless accusation? Or else provide some kind of evidence for the existence of Welsh speakers who cannot speak any English. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:27, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

I apologize, I misread your comment. I thought you were saying all people calling themselves Welsh could speak both Welsh and English. You were instead saying all Welsh-speakers could also speak English, which I accept is probably accurate. In cases where people can speak both Welsh and English fluently, really I suppose it's up to them whatever they wish to identify as, or they can identify as English-Welsh for all I care.

Statement retracted.

Now do you want to tell me what Welshness is, if it isn't shared language, if it isn't shared descent, if it isn't shared religion, if it isn't shared culture.

What is Welshness.

Look this isn't unique to Welshness, it's the exact same case (even more so) for the supposed "country" I live in, "Scot"land. For whatever reason this is a problem that plagues the British Isles in general. Where people seem incapable of separating a regional identity from an ethnic one.

It's not that these groups aren't 'peoples', and distinct in their own ways, it's just that they're not ethnic groups. They're what we'd term ethnographic groups, in the same sense you would Bavarians or Gorals and so forth, effectively subgroups of a larger ethnic group, which in your case (and my case) would be English. 81.170.32.206 (talk) 22:10, 16 April 2022 (UTC)

Figured that was coming. You don't answer me here. You don't answer me on talk pages.

Maybe one day we'll get an answer on why some people don't think speaking Welsh is a crucial part of the Welsh identity. 81.170.32.206 (talk) 17:51, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

April 2022

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Whatever, man, keep pushing whatever agenda you want here. Hey, the people of my city are a distinct people, we're different from those in the rest of the 'Scottish' ethnic group. We are our own thing, we are not Scottish. I want Wikipedia to recognize Glaswegians as an ethnic group because we're a people who identify with one another based on all the same claims 'Welsh' and 'Scottish' people have to being a 'distinct ethnic group'.

Glaswegians are treated differently by people in other parts of Scotland (often very negatively). We have our own language/dialect and accent, we have our own distinct ancestral mix. We have our own customs, beliefs and traditions. We have our own history and so on and so forth.

Glaswegians are just as entitled to ethnic minority status as so-called Welsh and Scottish peoples of today are. We deserve the funding that entails. We deserve diversity quotas to be filled for ethnic Glaswegians.

Let's all keep barrelling down that rabbit hole, eh? 81.170.32.206 (talk) 08:01, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

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