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June 2021

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Hello Abdulhaseebatd. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

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You're being mistaken BEACHIDICAE🌊, as I'm not getting any compensation nor expectimg one, directly or indirectly. By the way one should do some fact checking before accusation. Don't you think there's a difference between legitimate edits & paid ones? One more thing, how do you write your name like that means with different colors Thanks...MalikSaab🌊

That's really interesting considering you responded to a Freelancer request and were awarded the project. BEACHIDICAE🌊 18:26, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
What BEACHIDICAE🌊, you're saying that I responded to a Freelancer request & were awarded the project(you're actually saying that I took money/expecting money to edit on wikipedia). Never expected a mere allegation from a experienced editor, please provide me a link of that. Kindly Prove that I'm being paid by anyone to improve this draft(otherwise I'll expect a Sorry from you for your allegation.) For your info, I was asked by a friend to improve this draft, though i was not very much interested in this singer, nor I heard her before. But now after this I'll not be only improving this draft, but I'll also invite my friends to improve this draft. Thank you BEACHIDICAE🌊 for motivating me to improve this draft. You know, I love challenges, so I'll make sure giving 100% to improve this draft. Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 09:14, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you Bsoyka for notifying me about edit Summary, from now & onward I'll make sure to give a perfect edit Summary to my edits. Plus I've checked for that prompt message. Thank you Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 13:56, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Zaid Ali T moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Zaid Ali T, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. bonadea contributions talk 20:52, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

bonadea, How you can come up saying that that Article(now Draft:Zaid Ali) needs more citations from reliable, independent sources, when it already had citation from most credible national level Pakistani sources such as the Nation(Largest Pakistani English Newspaper) 1 2, Geo/Jang Media(largest urdu News group) 3, inCPak 4, Samaa News(National level News channel) 5, Duniya News 6. I think you missed seeing refrences and their credibility, so instead of categorizing Article as stub you (in some hurry) removed this article to draft. Please do revert your draftication, so more people can actively improve this Zaid Ali to upper categories. Thank you Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 02:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
No need to worry – I have read all the sources and the draftification was not accidental. One or two of the sources might be possible to use in the article, but the majority are purely promotional fluff and/or very short notices, with a couple of primary sources as well. Feel free to work on the draft (which I have returned to Draft:Zaid Ali, since you tried to get around the salting of Zaid Ali by using a different title) and when you believe that it does meet WP:N you can submit it for review. If the reviewing editor thinks that it might survive an AfD deletion, they can request that the create protection be removed. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 12:41, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Please mention which of following stuff is promotional;
  1. The Nation About Zaid Ali's family (Written by; Our Staff Report)
  2. The News About Zaid Ali (written by; Web Desk)
  3. Jang News About Zaid Ali (written by; Web Desk)
  4. Samaa News about him (written by; Samaa, Life & Style Editors)
  5. duniya news about Zaid (Written by; Web Desk)
  6. Tribune About Zaid (written by; Entertainment Desk)

[User:Bonadea|bonadea]], Please show (& also report them on proper Wikipedia Forum) which of above news website is faking us all by giving promotional stuff in name of their editorial staff. I think it'll be better if i can notify other editors, as it's important to notify other editor to not use links from these news websites. Also which of above is primary source? Thank you Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 13:47, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

All of them. The sources are all promotional, but as you will see I have made no claims of them "faking us all [sic]". You don't need to notify other editors, since this is already thoroughly explained in the policies on neutrality and reliable sourcing. As for the sources you list here, 1 is five simple sentences telling the reader that Zaid Ali has posted to Instagram; 2 is marginally longer and also tells the reader that Zaid Ali posted to Instagram; 3 is an Instagram post that's been copied into the publication with some surrounding fluff; 4 copies the exact same Instagram post (but note that either 3 or 4 doesn't know what the Instagram posting was actually about!); 5 says "he is married" and then uses a lot of space for Instagram posts and copies of tweets; 6 is the only one of the six that is vaguely independent, but all it does is quote Ali and say about 50 words about him, in a 350-word notice. A BLP (just like any other article) needs significant coverage to show that the topic is notable. --bonadea contributions talk 14:19, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you bonadea for showing me other perspective. I don't know why I was getting mad though it was my own mistake of not referencing draft properly. But I will like to let you know that there is a lot of stuff available online about him on google search(pakistan location) but I don't know anything else I can write about a YouTuber on Wikipedia. That's why I wanted this draft to be a Article so more people can contribute. I'll like to show some other citations which I recently added;

and also there are a lot of news about him in urdu language as well( but I'm really bad in urdu searches on google).

If we can conclude these citations reliable independent & long (along with vaguely independent one), I'll request you to move this draft to Article, so others can add more info (I've nothing left to write about him). Thank you. Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 15:04, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

bonadea, there are two wikipedia pages i found about him in other languages;

They can be just translation of some former English Wikipedia page about him(Not sure) Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 15:36, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Important Question from bonadea

One more Question bonadea, I want to add many very very popular Pakistani Youtubers/stars to Wikipedia like Shahveer Jafri, Ducky Bhai, Mehrban TV, P 4 Pakao, Rahim Pardesi and many others. They're Celebrities, followed by Millions on their YouTube, appear frequently & regularly on national TV channels, but problem is most of Pakistani media don't actually write on their website, but instead they put all of their stuff on Youtube. What I can do in such case? Can I show their notability by YouTube citations of Credible news media? Thank you. Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 15:22, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Zaid Ali has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Zaid Ali. Thanks! Ken Tony Shall we discuss? 15:04, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Firdous Ashiq slapped Qadir Mandokhel (June 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Nearlyevil665 was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
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This event is better integrated into Firdous Ashiq Awan and/or Qadir Khan Mandokhel as a sub-section. Doesn't seem like a pass of WP:EVENTCRITERIA to warrant a standalone article.
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June 2021

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Thank you User:Kuru for your interest in Draft:Zaid Ali. I didn't get your point (so sorry about that). Please guide me more about this topic. Yeah I'm not very sure about verifiability of some of sources I used (like parhlo.com, of which I never heard before using that citation) but most of sources I used are independent, reliable and verifiable like I used sources from most reputable English newspapers of Pakistan, which are Dawn.com(older than Pakistan itself), The Express Tribune, The Nation and National TV Urdu channels like ARY News, Samaa TV, Dunya News and reputable Urdu newspapers like Daily Jang. Thank you. Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 14:47, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Sham Idrees

Thanks for asking help brother on my talk page, There are actually 29 Pakistani YouTubers already on Wikipedia see Category:Pakistani YouTubers and jobs of adminstrators are to look at grammer, wrong information, notablity, citations etc, adminstrators mostly do not make pages, feel free to work on your mission. Also I have seen some of your edits on Sham Idrees which are a bit disruptive such as you keep changing Canadian to Pakistani, Sham Idrees is a British-Canadian YouTuber as he was born in London and lives in Canada, has a Canadian citizenship, so please do not change it to Pakistani origin, He sure does have British-Pakistani origin but that doesn't make him a Pakistani since his parents are. Thank you. User:SharqHabib 15:50 (UTC)

Thanks User:SharqHabib for responding to my query. Yeah, I'm trying to add some of those notable pakistani folks who usually show up on national TV. No, not really, it's we all who make Wikipedia run properly, not only those admin guys. Yeah, I actually wrote him Pakistani, as it's what he identities himself on in his videos. By the way, It's really great to have you here on Wikipedia. Would look to collaborate with you & will try to learn from your experience on wikipedia. Thank you.. Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 16:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for reply User:Abdulhaseebatd. Yes Sham Idrees does say he is Pakistani, but if someone says he is Pakistani, he doesn't actually become a Pakistani unless you have his full info, anyone can lie on YouTube, I also do have Indian descent but If I call myself Indian, that doesn't make me an Indian citizen, Sham Idrees was born in London so he is 50% British and he has a Canadian citizenship so he is 50% Canadian which makes him a British-Canadian person, his parents are Pakistani but that doesn't make Sham Pakistani, if you have anything else to ask you can ask at my (talk page) 16:51, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Got it, yeah it's right to be more factual here on Wikipedia than guessing. Surely I would love to see more from you. Thank you Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 16:59, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Zeeshan Zameer moved to draftspace

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Ok, see you there. Thank you. Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 12:49, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

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Shahveer Jafry

You added Shahveer Jafry to the list of YouTubers. There is no article for such person. Having an article is the first thing. They have to be notable enough to warrant an article. Just because they are on YouTube doesn't mean you put them on the list. Again, they have to be notable. If you think he should be on the list, make a proper draft article. When you think it's ready for mainspace, you submit it. Don't be discouraged if it's rejected. If you decide to create an article in draftspace, it's on you to establish notability. Thanks. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 04:20, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello User:Fishhead2100, actually there was a page for Shahveer Jafry (Which just has been deleted by an admin on basis of a recent AfD in 2019(he calls it recent) ). I'm trying to get back thst page. Anyway thank you for your contribution. ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 (talk) 12:34, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Um, 2019 isn't recent. If you bothered to look, it was deleted yesterday (June 27). That was the third nomination. In 2016, it was speedy deleted twice on the basis of A7 and G4. In 2018, it was in mainspace, but was moved to draftspace, but ultimately deleted from the latter. Basically, just move on from this person. The article is going to get deleted again. Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 15:57, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Zaid Ali (July 10)

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Seriously Man, you declined this draft about Pakistani YouTuber/Vlogger on basis of Vandalism done by a September 8th, 1997 born, Babu Banarasi Das University Lucknow's Alumni, and an indian Mechanical Engineer Zaid ali007 (as what he wrote in vandalism edit, which was eventually reverted by Sasquatch. Hopefully you'll notice that. Thank you. ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 (talk) 19:07, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

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@TheWikiholic: I've moved back List of people from Mansehra to article space. If you still have any objection, please do consider WP:AfD, Thank you. ☢️ Radioactive 🎃 (talk) 14:52, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Zaid Ali (July 25)

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number of followers has little bearing on notability
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Keep Anaypro (talk) 20:52, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Subject is note able Anaypro (talk) 20:54, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ashish Chanchlani (September 15)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by TheBirdsShedTears was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
I don't see any difference between Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ashish Chanchlani (2nd nomination) and the current revision. There are some sources in thir draft, but unfortunately their contents fails to satisfy general notability guidelines. GNG is established by in-depth coverage about the subject than growing praises, Twitter trends, interviews etc. Moreover, adding a piece of controversy along with "praising the subject" do not confer notability. This article clearly fails GNG. We even don't know his date of birth, education details and how he started his career etc. Please note, while updating draft content, every claim must be reliably sourced. Forbes India source do nothing in notability as its content seems praising the subject than providing in-depth information. While Entrepreneur.com source is the work of its staff member, but is says "Opinions expressed by Entrepreneur contributors are their own", indicating the source article is based on subject's own views and opinions.
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@TheBirdsShedTears:, yeah this draft has many shortcomings, it completely missed all of his Hindi coverage. I've asked WikiProject India to help, let see if they can help. I think he's notable (as a fan), but yeah currently used refs aren't very much helpful. Thankew Abdulhaseebatd (talk) 10:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

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@Diannaa:  – Really? I want to know how a government website isn't public domain? Radioactive (talk) 13:15, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
The text is a match for https://dailytimes.com.pk/69458/a-look-at-46-year-parliamentary-trail-of-ajk-legislative-assembly. I was unable to check the source you listed http://ajkassembly.gok.pk/brief-history/ as it returns an error "Error 1020 Access denied" so I was unable to confirm that page's copyright status or if it supports the material you added.— Diannaa (talk) 14:14, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
The webpage in the infobox is a dead link as well. The archived version shows a copyright notice "2020© AJ&K; Information Technology Board, All Rights Reserved." The only working webpage for this government body that I have found so far is this one, which is marked as "© Copyright 2021 PM Secretariat, All Rights Reserved".
Not all governments release their works into the public domain. Commons:Copyright rules by territory/Pakistan shows government works in Pakistan enjoy copyright protection for 50 years from publication date. So no.— Diannaa (talk) 14:34, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
@Diannaa:, Apparently there's an issue with this site. I took me a while to find site, as it's not indexed by Google, and now I'm also struggling to save this page by wayback machine to show you an archive. Maybe site is limited to Pakistani IPs, that's why you (and also wayback machine) were denied to access site. But site isn't dead. Secondly Pakistani laws are irrelevant to Azad Kashmir, they're quite independent of Pakistani laws, infact they do have their own constitution, Supreme Court and Government etc. And I'm also unsure if any assembly (of any territory) of Pakistan do hold any copyrights. Radioactive (talk) 15:04, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
But yeah, I'm gonna look at concerned laws of Azad Kashmir, to see if one can use data/info from Azad Kashmir assembly website. Thankew Radioactive (talk) 15:08, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

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