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Connemara marble[edit]

I've removed your addition to the list of notable marbles as there is no article establishing its notability. Vsmith (talk) 22:14, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Flash Mob Robberies[edit]

Look into "swarming" and how it relates to flash mobs of youth in the UK and Australia after 2004 overwhelming store security. Also, an interesting side note to all of this is the invention and use of the "Mosquito" in these stores, triggered by security or a manager, to repel the youth en masse:


Use of “Mosquito”, originally to force teen theft gangs from shops and to prevent loiterers outside stores, then becomes a “ringtone” that adults – and teachers – cannot hear – http://www.compoundsecurity.co.uk/security-news


The sound that repels troublemakers – http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/articles/2006/04/04/mosquito_sound_wave_feature.shtml


Original NY Times article on “Mosquito” tone (2005) - http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/28/world/europe/28iht-journal.html

Secmail (talk) 19:43, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Flash Mob Robbery vs. Theft[edit]

I'm pretty sure that, despite what the media says, these are not "robberies". In most places, a robbery is defined as "the taking of personal property from another by force or fear of force" [1]. This would include "armed robbery", "bank robbery", "car jacking", etc., but not mass shoplifting which is what these "swarms" or "flash mobs" appear to be doing. While shoplifting -- and theft, in general -- can be a misdemeanor or felony, depending on the value of the goods taken, there doesn't appear to be any weapon or physical threat taking place here.

Some states, such as California[2], will add in the greater crime of burglary here as it is basically defined in their Penal Code [3]as "entering a vehicle or building with the intent to steal or commit a felony." So, the pre-planning that some individual shoplifters use (such as baggy clothing, false sleeves, empty packages or even repeated thefts) can be considered "intent" therefore the gathering of a mob to overwhelm the store's security procedures is also, most likely, intent. (Note that this burglary definition is loose enough to be applied if a married man enters a church to marry another woman, i.e. "bigamy" = "felony".)

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Secmail (talk) 20:57, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article Flash mob robbery has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Robberies happen all the time. These events have no last consequences nor notable enough for inclusion in an encyclopedia. Furthermore, most of this original research is YouTube links.

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Nomination of Flash mob robbery for deletion[edit]

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