User talk:AndyChristWiki

Andrew Mikhail

I see that you started the page for Andrew Mikhail. Please follow the article guidelines for a musician article as listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians/Article guidelines. Thank you! Bonnie (talk) 18:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

I have looked at the guidelines. I don't appreciate people making a mess of the article, deleting things, or generally screwing it up causing errors making things not display because they haven't used the wiki syntax correctly. I am aware that anyone can edit any wiki article and nobody owns an article. Andrew has requested that I make this article for him and asked that it's made a certain way so I am trying to keep it as he'd like it (like we've seen other musicians articles). After the article is up long enough that I can upload his picture so it's displayed I won't be giving a damn about the article. The trolls can troll it all they want and I will only re-turn the article to how Andrew would like it to be when he asks.

AndyCristWiki

It is not Andrew's page. This is not Facebook. Saying "re-turn the article to how Andrew would like it" is ownership. Anybody can edit the page. Do not threaten anybody who edits articles. Do not leave threats on my page or anybody else's page. There are standard ways to write articles about musicians and you are not following them. Bgwhite (talk) 18:59, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

It sure IS Andrew's "page" (article). It is about him. I never said he owns it, I never said I own it, I am aware of wiki's rules and Terms of Service, and I am aware this is not facebook. Instead of destroying and trying to remove the page why don't you support it in a positive way and make additions to it instead of editing it with incorrect wiki syntax so it doesn't work right and has errors? That would be very much appreciated. I will be undoing your edits AGAIN, but first I will be looking into reporting you for abusive use of the AWB tool and destroying this article instead of supporting and respectfully making additions to it. You are not the wiki police. We would very much appreciate your support instead of your attempts to and edits that destroy it.

So far, despite the citations required (which I'm adding NOW after I undo your destruction AGAIN), it is within the guidelines. The article isn't even a week old! I, unlike it you (it seems), have a job. I work hard 7 days a week and am doing this for Andy because he is a friend. Please support it. Or leave it alone!!!

AndyCristWiki

Any article put up has to meet the guidelines. Doesn't matter if it is an hour old or one year old. You have taken a hostile stance since the beginning and telling everybody not to touch it because it is yours. Cooperation goes both ways. Try to read the material Bonnie told you about and FOLLOW IT. Any unsourced material is subject to removal at any time without notice. Do not undo an edit and not add a reference.

You cannot add an image from the outside. That is why you get the red lettering. I remove it and you restore it. Equipment cannot be added unless they are known for something special. All your external links are bogus. They either go nowhere, are unreliable or don't significantly mention him. They BLPPROD was placed and you have 10 days to add actual refs per WP:SOURCE or it will be deleted. We have given where to look for guides. Look at other musician articles as a guide. I am the wiki police along with Bonnie and everybody else. Now stop your threats and make the article correctly. Bgwhite (talk) 07:24, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

I did some cleanups and looks like Bonnie did too. I removed the "reference" section as they weren't references. Wikipedia is an unreliable source as anybody can contribute. Instead of using the Wikipedia page, use the references found in the page. Your other links, such as the video are formatted wrong. Take a look other pages to see how "external links" are done. Bgwhite (talk) 17:02, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

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October 2013

Please stop. Continuing to remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Andrew Mikhail, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, may be considered disruptive editing. Further edits of this type may result in your account being blocked from editing. Bgwhite (talk) 05:07, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

The maintenance tags state:

1. There are no inline citations. This is true as there are none.
2. ---YES, THERE ARE! Links to other related wiki articles IN the article it self which refer to Andrew in those articles.

1. Needs more categories. This is true as there are only two categories.
2. ---There are five. Can't you count? They are even numbered for you.

1. External links do not follow guidelines. This is also true.
2. --- Again I ask that you read the talk page. It clearly states that this article is within the guidelines.

You do not own the article. You have no control over the article. As stated before, everybody is the wiki police and anybody can edit the article. In actuality, there are editors who's job is to be the "police". They are called administrators and I am one.

I backed off and let you write the article and then you turn on your petty ownership issue again. The gloves come off. You cannot tell someone to not write on an article. Do not revert when there is no case for revert. Continuing to indulged yourself in this pursuit will only get you blocked. Their are guidelines to follow. This is not Facebook where you can put up anything as you see fit. You must abide by the guidelines like every other editor. Bgwhite (talk) 05:16, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Again, check the talk page. It IS within the guidelines. That is clearly stated. I am not telling you to do anything I am asking you to stop the harassment, vandalism, and abuse. Why not contribute to the page if you're not happy with it? That would be much more appropriate. Admin you may be. Good for you. You're abusing your powers over your own personal opinion which is inappropriate. Other admins have inspected the article and have seen no issues. What is your problem? Why must you pick on this tiny little article as an attempt to give Andrews fans a place to go to find information on him? I will also repeat that I am well aware this isn't facebook. That is a social network on a different URL.

AndyCristWiki

There are no inline citations. Please read about what is is before spouting off.

There are exactly two categories listed: 1988 births and living people.

I have no idea what talk page you are referring. Look at every page on Wikipedia and it shows you are doing it wrong.

You are not within guidelines. Where are the guidelines that you speak of? Other people besides me have placed the maintenance tags, so other people think the same. Bgwhite (talk) 05:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

This is your last warning. The next time you remove the maintenance templates from Wikipedia articles without resolving the problem that the template refers to, as you did at Andrew Mikhail, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Bgwhite (talk) 05:57, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

You're an admin and you don't know what a talk page is???? Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Andrew_Mikhail As I've requested of you many times; instead of destroying the article, why don't you try helping and contributing to it? As that posting linked above for you says - it is within the guidelines so YOU are out of line and committing disruptive edits.
I'm done playing this stupid game with you. I have reported you for abuse and will let the ACR's decide. Good day. IgnoringYouMode:ON

AndyCristWiki

You stated "Again, check the talk page. It IS within the guidelines. " Yea, I know Mikail's talk page and nothing is on there. How does it say it is within guidelines?

I've showed you where to look. I said look at different pages. You have refused. I tried to edit and you reverted. Bonnie tried to help and you did the same to her.

No you haven't reported me to ACR and it won't do any good. The place to complain about abuse is WP:ANI. Bgwhite (talk) 06:22, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

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Again you are wrong. I thanked Bonnie for his/her CONTRIBUTIONS. Bonnie was helpful. You're just a destructive troll chasing people away from contributing to wikipedia. The only thing you have linked is things that pertain to your threats. Not cool, dude. I've asked for your help numerous times to direct me to the info that would make you happy and all you've done is threaten, destroy, disrupt, and vandalize. Wtf dude?!?! Here, I'll post it for you:

So please take your template down. Wiki does not require anything you're attempting to enforce. If it does...why don't you add it and help instead of destroying it???? That would be appreciated.

AndyCristWiki

The biography banner that you are referring to just means that the article belongs inside the scope of Wikiproject Biography. It does not mean anything else. It does not mean the article was blessed as good or anything else. It is placed on all Biography articles. Bonnie left the musician page to look at and I've refereed to it. I've also left WP:SOURCE, inline citations and to look at any other musician article. You reverted Bonnie's edit and complained to her. You never thanked her. You are the one who hasn't looked at anything. You are the one who blew off Bonnie and then me. You are the one who has repeatedly said things that are not true. You are the one who has reverted without cause. Now stop you complaining and whining. If you have questions ask. Look at the links given to you and fix the page. Remember, I didn't place the maintenance tags, so other editors find the article has problems.

Unless you have questions on how to fix the page, this conversation is over as it is going nowhere. File a report to WP:ANI if you desire. If nothing is done to correct the page, I will fix it, which means getting rid of half the stuff. So it is better that you fix it. Bgwhite (talk) 07:54, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

So now you are also calling me a liar. I did thank Bonnie through the thank link that listed his/her edit. Get a life! Christ dude...why can't you just support the page? It doesn't matter if YOU like it or not this is not a personal thing. Well, HA! You're trying to make it personal. I couldn't care less what you think. It is a wiki article that provides info for Andrews fans to find more info on him if they're interested. That's simply all it is and everything here is true. There aren't many reliable sources to create inline citations with since most of the bands he has played with are fairly popular, but very underground. Since you have so much time on your hands it would be appreciated if you would find and add some to make yourself happy but no, you'd rather destroy. Grow up. Nothing needs to be removed, that would be destructive. Nothing in the article is untrue.

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